# Bedtime, morning time, and getting old

**URL:** <https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425>\
**Category:** general\
**Created:** [February 13, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425 "2018-02-13T19:22:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MikeP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MikeP](https://cog.discourse.group/u/MikeP)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/68 "2020-08-11T02:05:06Z")

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Oh yeah, that is _sooo_ familiar ☹

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**Author:** ![RRabbit42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rrabbit42/32/79_2.png) [@RRabbit42](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RRabbit42)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/69 "2021-01-16T07:04:00Z")

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Well, nertz. I think it’s time to admit I’m getting old. It’s getting harder to read things on the smaller monitors even with glasses.

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**Author:** ![Nabiki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/nabiki/32/935_2.png) [@Nabiki](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Nabiki)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/70 "2021-01-16T16:20:39Z")

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I had to use a magnifying glass to read the instruction manual for an item that I got. Not only was the print really small, it was grey on white rather than black on white. I used to be able to read those things anyways.

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**Author:** ![Rizak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rizak/32/4190_2.png) [@Rizak](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Rizak)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/71 "2021-01-16T17:31:36Z")

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Last year I stopped into a micro-brewery/pub. The print on the menu was so small that I had to try to read it with the Magnify app on my phone. After a couple of minutes I just gave up, turned the menu over and left. The bartender started screaming at me because I didn’t order anything after taking up a spot at the bar for 3 minutes.  
Yeah, not going back _there_ again.

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**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/72 "2021-01-17T01:15:05Z")

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I’ll accept my vision being better than it was a decade ago as an acceptable result from being lasered since I didn’t develop any cool superpowers.

On the other hand, I now realize that my vision goes off when I’m stressed.

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**Author:** ![Nabiki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/nabiki/32/935_2.png) [@Nabiki](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Nabiki)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/73 "2021-01-17T02:03:16Z")

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Oh, my vision is _far_ better than it used to be before lasik. I’m just starting to see some of that fade. I’ll never be as blind as I was, though.

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**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/74 "2021-01-17T14:46:30Z")

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I’ve been borrowing my wife’s $2 readers to read small print all weekend. Thursday I was reading just fine, all of a sudden this weekend my near vision is crap. This is something I was warned about with PRK, My distance vision is still good but since the surgery my close up vision has been fading. I’d still do it, not needing glasses to get out of bed is priceless.

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**Author:** ![RRabbit42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rrabbit42/32/79_2.png) [@RRabbit42](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RRabbit42)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/75 "2021-01-18T05:15:53Z")

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We’re not alone. Worsening eyesight seems to be related to [increased screen time](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/what-has-the-pandemic-done-to-our-eyes.html).

This makes a lot of sense now. I have a tablet that is good enough and large enough to watch movies on, but I rarely did. I couldn’t watch streamed TV shows on the Linux computer because Linux isn’t supported by some services. And now I’ve got a Windows 10 computer where I can, but I’d rather sit in the living room and watch something on the TV because it’s father away. I find there’s a point where I absolutely have to get away from the computer to give my eyes a rest.

I think I’m going to try what the article suggests in addition to more breaks: deliberately blink your eyes more and squeeze and hold the final blink for a while.

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**Author:** ![Rizak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rizak/32/4190_2.png) [@Rizak](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Rizak)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/76 "2021-01-18T17:42:26Z")

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I got the biggest phone ever made (6.9") which helped a lot.  
This is where I tend to use the computer the most. I don’t have to strain to read it as my distance vision is quite good.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:35am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/77 "2021-02-07T08:35:10Z")

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High BP. Medicarion time again.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/78 "2021-02-08T10:46:45Z")

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> [@Ook](#):
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> this week… I was… not… motivated to get up at the crack of dawn.
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> Especially that I got some kind of barsteward pig flu, and it really, really made it difficult for me. Next week should be better, I hope.

I’m now wondering if this was the forerunner of COVID when it was still in its infancy…

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/79 "2021-02-14T18:40:03Z")

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FWIW, even though I apparently started this thread two years and 300 lifetimes ago, I’m still going to bed by 8-9 and waking up without an alarm clock between 5-6am. I don’t know why. I don’t know how any of this works. All I know is that I’m going to keep doing it because it feels great. I’m just… _not tired_ in the mornings. It’s amazing.

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/80 "2021-02-17T20:19:47Z")

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I wish I could do that. Without external prompts my body likes to go to sleep at about 2 and wake about 9, so most mornings where I have to wake before 9 I end up a zombie until elevenses.

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**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/81 "2021-02-17T20:32:04Z")

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I have been pushing my wife to go to bed slightly earlier. Between that and both of is working out, I think we’ve been sleeping better.

My ‘natural’ cycle is to go to sleep around 10 and wake up around 6-7 these days. Of course, with a dog there’s a cap on how long we can sleep in ever.

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**Author:** ![Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/viking/32/32_2.png) [@Viking](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Viking)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/82 "2021-02-18T10:35:17Z")

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I’m a night-owl, and happiest when the rest of the world is asleep. Having to head off to sleep at 11pm feels wrong somehow.

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**Author:** ![Force10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/force10/32/1550_2.png) [@Force10](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Force10)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/83 "2021-02-18T16:22:00Z")

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This is so me. Unfortunately I start work at 8 AM.

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**Author:** ![Blurr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/blurr/32/4237_2.png) [@Blurr](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Blurr)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/84 "2021-02-18T20:43:55Z")

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Two kids (3yo and a 6mo) means my sleep schedule is crazy. Frequent naps at around 2pm-3pm for my 3yo (which I have to take with him since he can’t nap on his own yet), then bed time for everyone is around 11pm although sleep isn’t achieved all the way until 2am usually. It’s an improvement; Just last month, I usually slept at 3am because I’m holding the baby so my wife can get a couple hours in before having to get up to deal with said baby.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/85 "2021-02-20T16:21:41Z")

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Welcome back, good to hear all is well your side!

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**Author:** ![Blurr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/blurr/32/4237_2.png) [@Blurr](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Blurr)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/86 "2021-02-20T18:56:16Z")

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Good to be back and it’s nice to see many of us are still around. Life and work kept me busy, but all for the better. I got promoted to Sys Admin just before the COVID-19 lockdowns happened here in the Bay Area, which helped out a ton with my second son being born in August last year. I’ve been doing less user-facing support so I haven’t had much of a need to vent about stupidity lately.

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**Author:** ![DocDubious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/docdubious/32/995_2.png) [@DocDubious](https://cog.discourse.group/u/DocDubious)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/bedtime-morning-time-and-getting-old/1425/87 "2021-02-20T20:09:24Z")

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When I was first doing IT I was on a second-shift schedule, and my wife volunteered for late hours at her work, too, so we didn’t have to get up at a certain time, really.

I found I slept 7.5 hours, pretty much independent of when I went to bed.

I will say that awakening at the same time every day is easier if you also go to bed at the same time every day, providing there are enough hours between the two. 😉

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