# Buying a connected car or house? Better get it wiped **URL:** \ **Category:** useful info\ **Created:** [February 18, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290 "2017-02-18T04:13:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RRabbit42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rrabbit42/32/79_2.png) [@RRabbit42](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RRabbit42)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/1 "2017-02-18T04:13:59Z")
Anyone who’s watched _Top Gear_ may remember the episode where they bought used cars then had them inspected for biological matter left behind by the previous owners. The results weren’t pretty. Well, CNN posted an article this morning about digital matter that can be left behind when you buy a used car that has connectivity options, and it also applies to connected houses. In short, the previous owners of both may still have access to them even after the sale has gone through. For cars, you have to go to the dealership to have the connection broken. The article says that a factory reset will only reset the car and not the connection that might still exist through an app on a tablet or smartphone. Details on the CNN site: [http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/17/technology/used-car-hack-safety-location/index.html](http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/17/technology/used-car-hack-safety-location/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/2 "2017-02-18T13:56:59Z")
> [@RRabbit42](#): > > digital matter that can be left behind when you buy a used car that has connectivity options Last time I rented a car, I saw leftovers from a previous user. I switched off my Bluetooth and opted to charge off the 12V → USB charger I’d brought myself. Practice Safe Tech, kids. ---
**Author:** ![DocDubious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/docdubious/32/995_2.png) [@DocDubious](https://cog.discourse.group/u/DocDubious)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/3 "2017-02-20T13:20:36Z")
> [@dakboy](#): > > I switched off my Bluetooth and opted to charge off the 12V -\> USB charger I’d brought myself. Definitely makes me want to research the USB condoms I’ve read about. No, seriously - it’s an inline device that basically only passes the voltage connections, breaking the data line. So an infected device could be used to charge, but your handheld wouldn’t be subjected to the malware. ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/4 "2017-02-20T13:36:47Z")
> [@DocDubious](#): > > No, seriously - it’s an inline device that basically only passes the voltage connections, breaking the data line. So an infected device could be used to charge, but your handheld wouldn’t be subjected to the malware. Can’t you buy power only USB cables? I could have sworn I have accidentally a couple times. ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/5 "2017-02-20T16:14:17Z")
> [@Woodman](#): > > power only USB cable Yes, I have a few that came with chargers (before I discovered Anker products) ---
**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/6 "2017-02-20T16:15:03Z")
> [@Woodman](#): > > Can’t you buy power only USB cables? I could have sworn I have accidentally a couple times. I think those are highly discouraged by the USB consortium because there’s no way to tell, visually, whether a cable is power or power + data. Obviously if it’s molded into a wall wart it’s power only, but anything else…can’t tell. ---
**Author:** ![DocDubious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/docdubious/32/995_2.png) [@DocDubious](https://cog.discourse.group/u/DocDubious)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/7 "2017-02-20T20:11:22Z")
> [@dakboy](#): > > I think those are highly discouraged by the USB consortium because there’s no way to tell, visually, whether a cable is power or power + data. Obviously if it’s molded into a wall wart it’s power only, but anything else…can’t tell. I was just going to go there - if you have a handful of cables, it isn’t easy to tell which ones are data-enabled and which are power-only. So you’d need two, and some way to mark them reliably. On the assumption you’d trust your own stuff… the USB “condom” would just be part of your travel kit, and you could just stock full-function cords, using the condom when attaching to an unknown device. And I’ve seen proof-of-concept articles where the author embedded a thumb drive **inside** an Apple wall-wart. When you’re at an airport or coffee shop and you see the charger in the wall you hook up… --bam–he has your device. ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/8 "2017-02-20T20:53:12Z")
The charge-only USB cables are generally kinda crappy. They’re ok for a bluetooth headset or ye olde flip phone, but they won’t pass enough power to charge a modern Android phone. I was fiddling with one last week - tested it with a brand new Anker charger with “Power IQ”, and my Moto X. After laying on the table for 15-20 seconds, the phone screen would come on, as if it had just been plugged in again. After 10 minutes, the battery was at 5 or 6 percent less charge than when I started. Then I threw the cable in the trash. ---
**Author:** ![CryHavok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/cryhavok/32/413_2.png) [@CryHavok](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CryHavok)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/9 "2017-02-20T20:57:52Z")
Yup, I’ve got a couple of those, they’ve red ends and a black cable to make them stand out (PortaPow brand). Of course, they work by throwing all the standards out of the window, so don’t hook them up to anything that’s not a charger. ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/road_rash/32/147_2.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/10 "2017-02-21T11:56:38Z")
> [@RoadRunner](#): > > tested it with a brand new Anker charger with “Power IQ” This charger? Mine is arriving tomorrow. [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K6TA748/](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K6TA748/) ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/11 "2017-02-21T14:16:57Z")
I’ve been super happy with this. And it has a flashlight that I’ve used more often than I thought I would. > **[Amazon.com: Portable Travel Charger Jackery Bar 6000mAh Pocket-sized Ultra Compact External Battery Power Bank Fast Charging Speed with Emergency Flashlight for iPhone, Samsung and Others - Orange: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AANMVNQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > Jackery, the Power Source for Mobility! What is Jackery Bar? Jackery Bar is one of the smallest and lightest portable external battery charger / power bank in the world. Wherever and whenever you go, ... ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/road_rash/32/147_2.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/12 "2017-02-21T14:42:48Z")
I’ve had the Jackery 7800 mAh version for almost 3 years now and I’ve been happy with it, but it doesn’t support fast charge so my kids will inherit it. Plus the new one has 3.4 times the capacity so it will last me through some marathon robotics regionals where unused wall outlets are very rare. ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/13 "2017-02-21T14:49:32Z")
Yeah, mine does have the fast charge, and I got two for my wife and I at GenCon last year, along with orange cloth braided charging cables so we were styling it running cables from bag to pocket. I think I got two or three charges off it at a time. And it charges pretty darn quick itself. I also got a six port table top charger that is smoking fast. I need like three more. ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/14 "2017-02-21T15:48:18Z")
I used this one when it came in last week > **[Amazon.com: Anker 2-Port 24W USB Wall Charger PowerPort 2 with PowerIQ for iPhone X/ 8/ 7 / 6s / Plus, iPad Air 2 / mini 3, Galaxy S Series, Note Series, LG, Nexus, HTC and More: Electronics](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LCDJ7LG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > Anker PowerPort 2 The High-Speed 2-Port USB Wall Charger From ANKER, America's Leading USB Charging Brand - Faster and safer charging with our advanced technology - 20 million+ happy users and countin ... I also bought this one last week > **[Amazon.com: Quick Charge 3.0, Anker 18W USB Wall Charger (Quick Charge 2.0 Compatible) PowerPort+ 1 for Galaxy S7/S6/Edge/Plus, Note 5/4, LG G4, HTC One A9/M9, Nexus 6, iPhone, iPad and More: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016LO811S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** I got tired of the one I use by my computer disappearing when step-children were around, plus I wanted an upgrade from the slow-ish BlackBerry charger I had there. * * * I have had these two in the truck for a while, in the back and front seats > **[Amazon.com: Anker 24W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive 2 for iPhone X / 8 / 7 / 6s / Plus, iPad Pro / Air 2 / mini, Galaxy S7 / S6 / Edge / Plus, Note 5 / 4, LG, Nexus, HTC and More: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VH84L5E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > AMERICA'S LEADING USB CHARGING BRAND - Faster and safer charging with our leading technology - 10 million+ happy users and counting Anker PowerDrive 2 24W 2-port USB car charger for phones, tablets & ... > **[Amazon.com: Anker Quick Charge 2.0 36W Dual USB Car Charger, PowerDrive+ 2 for Galaxy S7 / S6 / Edge / Plus, Note 5 / 4 and PowerIQ for iPhone X/ 8/ 7 / 6s / Plus, iPad Pro / Air 2 / mini, LG, Nexus, HTC and More: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JTEQKO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** I also have a 5 port non-Anker in the truck, hidden away in a cubby, with two 10’ cables running to the back seat, and two 6’ & one 3’ accessible in the front seat. I bought the 5 port car charger before Anker had one available, which they do now. The two Anker chargers in the truck are in for if someone needs to plug in an Apple cable, and also to run my nifty courtesy lights: > **[Cosmos ® 4 PCS 1LED Mini USB Light Keychain Super Bright Light Lamp with USB Connector and Touch Dimmer Switch - - Amazon.com](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F6MWSJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** * * * I have this one in my backpack > **[Amazon.com: Anker 20W 2-Port USB Wall Charger with Foldable Plug and PowerIQ Technology for Apple iPhone 6 / 6 Plus, iPad Air 2 / mini 3, Samsung Galaxy S6 / S6 Edge, Nexus, HTC M9, Motorola, LG and More (White): Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B8L36A6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > ANKER: Amazon's #1 Charging Brand - The highest average review rating of any charging brand. - One in three chargers sold on Amazon is from us. - Join the 10 million+ satisfied customers powered by An ... I keep one of these on my nightstand and another in a toiletry bag I use when I travel > **[Amazon.com: Anker 40W/8A 5-Port USB Charger PowerPort 5, Multi-Port USB Charger for iPhone 6/6 Plus, iPad Air 2/Mini 3, Samsung Galaxy S6/S6 Edge and More: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VH8ZW02/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > AMERICA'S LEADING USB CHARGING BRAND - Faster and safer charging with our leading technology - 10 million+ happy users and counting Anker PowerPort 5 40W 5-port USB charging hub for phones, tablets & ... On the portable battery front… This lives in my backpack > **[Amazon.com: Anker Astro E4 13000mAh Classic Portable Charger (2nd Generation, High-Capacity Fast-Charging External Battery Power Bank) with PowerIQ Techonology: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > With such massive capacity, in such a compact package, the Anker? Astro E4 is perfect for flights, road trips, or just any time you're away from an outlet. Enough power to go around. Marooned? In tran ... and this one is currently in my truck, but is sometimes (esp. summertime) in my backpack, too > **[Amazon.com: \[One of The Most Powerful 10000mAh Power Banks\] Anker PowerCore+ 10050 Premium Aluminum Portable Battery Charger with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 Technology (Silver): Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014ZT6QWC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** I have myriad Anker cables, and a few other Anker chargers (wall, car, and portable), including a couple that I’m fairly certain that my step-son absconded with, which is fine, more or less. ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/road_rash/32/147_2.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/15 "2017-02-21T15:56:14Z")
I envy your supply of chargers. You obviously have a lot of devices to charge or an obsession with USB chargers - I can’t figure out which applies here. Having said that: ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/16 "2017-02-21T15:58:53Z")
This is my baby., > **[Amazon.com: Photive 60 Watt 6 Port USB Desktop Rapid Charger. Intelligent USB Charger with Auto Detect Technology: Cell Phones & Accessories](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LMIA9L4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** > > USB Charger Simplify your life with the Photive 6-port Desktop Rapid Wall Charger Simplify your life with the Photive 60 Watt multi-port Rapid Charger from Photive. With a total of 6 USB ports and a t ... I need at least one more, though maybe with not as many ports. ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/17 "2017-02-21T16:15:18Z")
LMAO! Thanks! > [@Road\_Rash](#): > > lot of devices to charge or an obsession Probably a little of both… I have 3 phones, 3 bluetooth headsets\*, and a tablet, plus wife has a phone and a headset\*\*, and we both have portable chargers and bluetooth speakers. So yes, a lot of devices, but I since I like to be able to plug in wherever I am, and not need to run across the house if a phone rings, I have cultivated a nice collection of charging paraphernalia. OK, so maybe I like gadgets. You don’t want to know how many printerers I have - it’s obscene. * * * \*No, I don’t use them all at the same time (well, usually don’t)… Work phone, personal phone, old phone I only use for Ubering; old & new Plantronics Marque earpieces, both with dual connect (work & personal / Uber & tablet), and a [LG 760](https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-HBS-760-Bluetooth-Wireless/dp/B00WE1QYX0) bluetooth stereo earbuds thingy that I mostly use with the tablet. \*\*…which she forgets to charge, so rarely uses, but that’s a whole other issue ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/18 "2017-02-21T16:19:42Z")
> [@Woodman](#): > > I need at least one more, though maybe with not as many ports The first two I linked to are really good deals, even better if you catch them on Amazon’s ‘Today’s Deals’ page, or sign up for Anker emails, which occasionally have discount codes. ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/road_rash/32/147_2.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/19 "2017-02-21T16:23:19Z")
> [@RoadRunner](#): > > OK, so maybe I like gadgets. I know the feeling. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290/20 "2017-02-21T16:45:24Z")
> [@RoadRunner](#): > > The first two I linked to are really good deals, even better if you catch them on Amazon’s ‘Today’s Deals’ page, or sign up for Anker emails, which occasionally have discount codes. Yeah, old house and outlets usually aren’t close enough to something worthy of setting a device on to charge. I need the 5ft power cord, then USB outlet style. I’ve seen some interesting ones for desktop use that would work on an end table but I’m afraid to leave the small rectangle space and take the plunge into USB port as art zone. Especially since I 'm pretty sure the more interesting baseis to hide the crappy charger. [Next page](https://cog.discourse.group/t/buying-a-connected-car-or-house-better-get-it-wiped/1290.md?page=2)