Buying a new car?

I’ve had the chance to drive a car with the auto stop/start system for a couple of days now and my opinion has changed, going off in three directions.

In the good direction, it’s pretty consistent with starting up again in two seconds. That’s just a little longer than it takes to move your foot from brake to gas pedal, so it’s not that much of a delay and as long as you’re not stomping on the gas, it doesn’t lurch.

In the bad direction, there was once or twice I did have to push on the gas right away and it lurched a little. And when I hit a spot in town where I had to stop at one light after the other, it was a bit annoying having it stop and restart so frequently.

And in the middle is a couple of design choices. If you’re running the air conditioner, it exempts you from the engine shutting off. If you’re not, it will still keep the fan running and headlights and brake lights on when the engine shuts off, so it’s now drawing power directly out of the battery. Could the battery go flat if this happens often enough?

Another design choice showed up when I pulled into a parking space and the engine shut off at the usual two seconds later. I’m ready to park, so I press the Park button. The engine starts up again just in time for me to press the ignition button to turn it off again. Maybe it’s in the operators manual that I don’t have for this car that tells you, “You don’t have to press the Park button in this situation. You can just assume that we’ll make sure the transmission and engine are shut down correctly and will not start up when you take your foot off the brake like you do at a stop light.”

I don’t know if other manufacturers do it this way, but I found out by accident that if I turn the steering wheel a smidge while the engine has been shut off, it’s interpreted the same as lifting my foot off the brake. So you can let the auto start/stop do its thing and if you’re watching the stop light or cars ahead of you, you can make the car wake back up a couple of seconds before you need to move without moving your foot.

Unless something profound happens completely change my point of view, I probably won’t use this on my next car.

More general car tips. If you have anything that might need to plug into the round 12v port, look in the port to see if it has a protective plastic ring at the bottom. It’s probably there to prevent shorts in case a coin falls in it, which happened to me a long time ago. If it does have that ring, check the power adapter to see if the center contact is long enough to still touch the bottom when you put it in.

This rental car doesn’t have a navigation system, so I thought I’d plug in an old GPS unit I had lying around and that’s where I found out about the center contact pin length issue. Add a couple minutes to find out which USB-A port is just for power and not audio and viola, it works.

Second tip: Make sure you know how your power locks work. On this car, unlocking either front door unlocks all four. Open the rear hatch and all four doors also unlock. But they do have a separate button at the rear hatch that will lock the doors again for you. No apparent way to alter how these function.

Maybe it’s just a really poor implementation on the particular car I rented, but the auto start/stop system seems to be more of an annoyance than a help.

You come to a stop and it shuts off the engine one second later. If you happen to be in the process of pushing the park button, the car beats you to it and shuts off the engine but because you’re already in motion to push the park button and probably can’t stop yourself before you press it, so the engine starts again, requiring you to press the start/stop button to shut it off again.

After it does the auto shut-off at a stop light, it will randomly start itself back up again after a varying amount of time without using the move the steering wheel trick or lifting your foot off of the brake. It can be 20 seconds, 30 seconds or something longer.

Apparently, reducing the temperature control from 75°F to 68 is considered turning on the air conditioner, which activates the “air conditioning gets priority so don’t do auto start/stop” mode.

Related to this is if you don’t want to use AS/S, you’re required to turn it off every time you start the car. But if you want to use the Eco drive mode, you have to activate it every time you start the car because it will default back to the regular drive mode.

In other words, you have to opt out of one gas saving feature and opt in to another gas saving feature every time you go somewhere, when the second one should be something the car remembers and leaves selected.

QUIT QUIT QUIT! Don’t forget to wave your hat at the rental desk. You get more points for that.

Add one more to the tally of “things I didn’t think I would have to think about when buying a car”.

As dumb as it sounds, take a look at the cup holders. See what they use to accommodate the drink container. Is it just a circular area that can hold miscellaneous size things, or is there some sort mechanism that will adjust to help hold the container more firmly?

That same car with the moronic auto start/stop implementation had three spring-loaded tensioners in the cup holders that would help hold the container in place. The problem is they were triangular-shaped with one tip cut off. Picture this triangle with the tip pointing to the right nipped off to make it flat. ► They left hard corners when they made that cut.

Normally, it’s not a big deal if the container has smooth sides. But if it’s one like this bottle of tea, that notch at the bottom and the slightly larger base below it kept getting caught on the corners of the tensioners. Every time I lifted the bottle, it stopped for a moment as those hard corners locked into the notch, until I kept pulling up on it and the bottle popped free.

If they had rounded off the corners when they made the cut, I don’t think this would have been an issue.

So, whatever car I end up getting, one of the first things I will be doing is taking a flashlight to look in the cup holders and seeing if I need to get my Dremel to grind down anything that’s going to get caught on non-perfectly-even-sided drink containers.

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My truck has rubber “bulbs” in place of the triangles you describe. Nothing to get caught anywhere and they grab onto any shape bottle really well.

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Car buying just got a lot more complicated and a lot more immediate. If you’re thinking about buying one, you have more factors to weigh. I have an additional factor that others might not.

Donald Trump will be president again on January 20th. He will start implementing his plan to tariff imports and hasn’t said anything about being selective on what is tariffed, so the safest thing to assume is they will be on everything imported. This will affect automobiles because there aren’t any out there that don’t have at least one imported component. If you look at the electronics alone, every modern vehicle has dozens or hundreds of semiconductors, which are usually not made in the U.S. (I’m just going to say “car” from now on.)

Depending on when you were thinking of buying a car, your new deadline for getting a new one is before the tariffs go into effect. For safety, look at one on the dealer’s lot that finished assembly several months before that date. We don’t know right now when it will be. Likely it will be next year as Republicans got the Senate again and are projected to retake the House, so Trump will have momentum and a lot of support for starting tariffs quickly.

So, again, for safety, you might want to consider next spring as your deadline for purchasing a new car. You might want to also make that your deadline whether you’re planning on getting a new or used car. Get an interest rate that’s locked in.

The next big factor to consider is whether you’ll get one at all. If the analyses of Trump’s announced economic plans are accurate, the economy isn’t going to grow. It will shrink, maybe to the point of recession or even a depression. So keeping your current car may be the safest course to take.
 

That’s where I’m at and where my addition factors come in.

I have a seven-year-old car that’s paid for and in good shape. I can keep it and not worry about having a car payment hanging over me if something happens with my job, be that an economic downturn where they do furloughs again or I lose the job altogether.

On the other hand, my job reimburses me for the use of my vehicle on the job, so a car that’s 0-6 years old also includes depreciation and other things, and the reimbursement is higher. Fuel costs will be lower because the new version of what I have now gets 20% better mileage.

But with a new car or a recent used car, I have to assume and plan for my job still being here amongst those economic projections of higher overall costs. That’s the way it is for everyone, but my feeling is this time around, it’s more likely to be a guarantee than a possibility.

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Everything, everywhere, all at once will go up.

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This is the point you start planning to have the wiring in your car inspected. Insulation made from organic materials instead of petroleum is food for mice and rats.

Friend of mine had squirrles squirels squireeles…Fluffy tailed mice eat his car wiring in a weekend parked at work.

In a case of 20/20 hindsight, I think I was preparing for not getting a new car this year.

First, I was going to wait until around the traditional August/September time period for buying a new car or last year’s model, so I decided I’d get the brakes replaced this spring because they needed it. That was an extra expense so worn brakes wouldn’t count against the trade-in value. Same with the shocks and struts a few months ago.

Then there was the illegal U-turn in front of me that led to being rear-ended. Not a lot of damage and insurance covered it. Deductible and rental costs took more money.

Then I use an online estimator and find out whatever I’d get on trade-in probably wouldn’t make that huge a difference in the price of a new or new-ish car. Okay, plan on keeping current car and have a backup in the future. Maybe use it making trips to the store or for vacations so that mileage doesn’t accumulate on the new car. Need to find the appropriate amount of insurance to keep on it.
 

And then came the 2024 election. Trump was declared the winner the next morning, and on the next day, Goldman Sachs reduced their estimate for growth in the 20 countries in Europe that use the Euro for their currency, citing Trump’s tariffs as a big factor. Germany was already hurting, especially with the shakeup in their government, and Volkswagen announcing a couple of months prior they will be laying off workers and closing at least three auto plants doesn’t help.

Nissan and other auto makers are also looking at layoffs and plant closures. Quite a few created the problem for themselves by making the decision to sell less vehicles but have a higher profit margin on each one. Prices have gone up a lot because of those decisions, leading to a lot of unsold inventory.

Normally, these kinds of conditions would be a buyer’s market until the excess inventory gets used up as output decreases. Maybe wait just a little bit to see how things go before heading to the car lot.

Trump’s tariffs threw buying a new/new-ish car out the window. Over in the Politics is Stupid topic on October 26, I broke down the costs the tariffs will have on your average vehicle as it crosses the borders of Canada, USA and Mexico the seven times it typically takes during assembly. It isn’t a fixed 10% increase in the cost. It would be more like compound interest where each trip across a border is tariffed on a higher-value product.

The blanket 10% tariff on anything imported is the more widely-known tariff, along with the 60% or higher tariff on imports from China. What hasn’t gotten as much attention is the 200% tariff Trump wants to put on any car or truck made in Mexico that’s exported to the US. Or it could be 500%. He said he doesn’t care what the actual number is. To me, he wants to punish US automakers for moving their plants down to Mexico, even though his policies during his first term gave companies incentive to do so.
 

Even with higher prices coming in the near future, I could get a car now and avoid that. The problem is it’s only possible because the purchase would be subsidized by my employer with reimbursement for using it as part of my job. The amount paid includes depreciation and such if it’s 0 to 6 years old. After that, it’s lot less, which is what I’m getting now for my current car.

If I lose this job, I don’t have the reserves to take over the entire monthly payment. The car will be repossessed and my credit score will take a big hit.

From what I see and economists have seen, Trump’s tariffs will have a cascade effect that will hurt the country instead of helping it. It’s to the point where I now have to plan for the likelihood of furloughs or layoffs where I work. I can’t risk chaining myself to the additional debt of a car purchase right now.

Because of this decision, I’ve already started a smaller cascade effect, because there’s now a car dealership that will have one fewer sale until I know for certain it’s safe for me to proceed. Will that one fewer sale be the tipping point for a salesperson in an already shaky market that determines if they will still have a job? If not, the cascade continues.
 

The bright spot out of all of this is that if I hadn’t put extra money into maintenance and repairs this year, I would have a new car right now and I would be very worried about my ability to continue making payments on it, based on what’s likely to happen as Trump’s tariffs go into effect.

Just a small observation this time. Scotty Kilmer is a long-time auto mechanic. He’s got some good advice, but he’s really hard to listen to and watch on YouTube. His videos have a lot of noticeable cuts in them, which he might be able to reduce if he wasn’t so frenetic in how he talks. Slow down a little. Take your time.

Another problem is his video titles seem to have a higher amount of click bait in them. Kind of undercuts what you have to offer when you keep doing that.

The following does relate to buying a car, but has to have some political context first.

Trump’s tariffs are causing a lot of problems now. At the very lowest end, companies can’t make any plans on what to do for future growth because they have to continually check what he done from one day to the next.

Tariffs aren’t all he’s done, but among the rest is turning Elon Musk loose to do whatever he wants inside the U.S. Government under the guise of “efficiency”. Is he the head of the Department of Government Efficiency, a non-governmental agency, the kind Trump once despised? Trump says yes, other people inside the administration say no, including lawyers for the administration, others say they don’t know, including lawyers for the administration. Result: Musk goes where he wants, does what he wants, and instead of making recommendations about where to cut costs, he goes straight to forcing the cuts to happen himself.

This is backfiring on Musk and on Tesla. Tesla stock got a bump after the 2024 election, but as Musk uses his chainsaw to rip apart agencies, the stock is tanking. On November 5, it was $251.44. Five weeks later, it was $479.86. As of today, it is $225.31.

Protests against Musk and Tesla are a frequent occurrence now, and vandalism against related to both is becoming more noticeable. Tesla EV charging stations have been set on fire. Tesla vehicles and dealerships have been vandalized. Owners of Tesla vehicles are selling them or buying “I bought this before Elon went crazy” stickers to reduce the chances that their vehicle will be vandalized or just because they’re now embarrassed for doing so.

Trump has said that the vandalism is “domestic terrorism” and feels it should be illegal to boycott Tesla. To show his support for “First Buddy Musk” (or “Shadow President Musk”, as he’s also being called), Trump turned a driveway at the White House into a mini Tesla showroom/photo op and said he would buy a Model S. U.S. Presidents are not allowed to drive vehicles even after they’re no longer in office, so he’ll never be able to drive it, which may work in his favor as that model currently has 37 factory recalls on it.

However, several government departments are now getting rid of the electric vehicles and charging stations they have, so we’ll see how long Trump still likes electric vehicles. He certainly didn’t like them until Musk got involved in Trump’s campaign last year and then they were the bested thing ever.

That’s the end of the political context.
 

I’ve seen a couple of Tesla cars while driving and didn’t think much about them. Recently, I’ve seen a few Cybertrucks in passing and also didn’t think too much about them. That was until I had a look at one in my side mirror while waiting at a stop light and I realized they’ve got a major design flaw.

I’m not talking the fact that it looks like Musk created the design using Microsoft Paint. Or that the pointy bits that can injure pedestrians more than with other vehicles. Or the fact that after over a year past the start of public sale of them, they still hadn’t been crash tested by the NHTSA or the IIHS. Or that the glue used to attach trim pieces isn’t holding them well enough in cold climates and they’re starting to come off. Or that you have a permanent sun roof with no shading for overhead sun protection because the circled area is the only part that isn’t a window.

Except for the first and last ones, those are mechanical flaws. The design flaw is this is a vehicle that is only meant to be viewed from the sides or at a shallow angle from one of the sides. When you’re looking at the front and the rear, this is what you see.

This is what I saw in my mirror. It was about two places behind and one lane over from where I was and the only thing I saw was a flat surface that is almost indistinguishable from a line drawing. Even though the front and back are sloped, it looks like a single vertical surface. There’s no depth to it. It doesn’t matter if the stainless steel panels are painted or not. It looks like it’s in 2D.

And yes, I did draw this in MS Paint. The fact that the “Front” and “Back” identifiers are in Comic Sans is purely a (very fitting) coincidence since I tend to use PaintShop Pro for my graphics work. It was already set to that font when I needed to label the pictures and I kept it.

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I had a MuskWagon behind me last year (first I saw in person) and they’re so weirdly proportioned they kind of mess with your head. It felt like I was being followed by a billboard of a car.

There’s one up in tiny town. It looks like a strangely shaped station wagon, though it’s sold as a truck.

Huh. I did not know this was a thing. VPs aren’t allowed to drive either.

We have a couple of them up here and, man, they’re uglier in person. There’s a few cybertruck memes floating around. This is one of my favourites:

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This is getting interesting.

The Vancouver Auto Show in British Columbia made the decision to remove Tesla vehicles from the show due to concerns about vandalism and safety.

Protests are happening across Canada, with one sign protesting the “Model SS”. Other protests say not to buy the “Swasticar”.

The world’s largest Tesla protest sign was carved into the sand on a Welsh beach using a Tesla towing a rake. The sign is 250m (820ft) long and says “DON’T BUY A TESLA”, accompanied by a silhouette of Musk doing the now-infamous salute.
 

On January 10th, Transport Canada announced they were pausing their iZEV incentive program. You get up to $5000 for buying or leasing a zero-emissions vehicle. All models of Teslas are eligible for the full $5000 if they are sold instead of leased. The pause would go into effect just a few weeks later.

That weekend, vacant parking lots around Canada started getting filled with rows of Tesla vehicles. One of these is at an abandoned strip mall across from a Tesla dealership. Also that same weekend, Tesla announced they had sold 8600 vehicles.

As a result, Transport Canada put the pause into effect on January 13th because all funds for the program were now allocated. The sudden “sale” of that many cars drained $43 million from the program in less than three days. I’m putting “sale” in quotes because one of the things I learned last year when looking at new vehicles is dealerships can sell a car or truck that’s been on the lot too long to another branch within the company. It’s basically just moving money and inventory around to make the numbers look good.

The bad thing about this is it’s legal. If Tesla moved money around and bought their own vehicles, that still qualifies as a sale.

The worse thing about this is about 200 independent dealerships across Canada are now out a combined $10 million of their own money. The iZEV program had the dealers front the money to the customer and they’d be repaid. But because the program went from weeks before being paused to almost instantly paused, they didn’t have time to record their sales of electric vehicles. Transportation Canada will investigate.
 

Finally, in addition to the value of Tesla stock losing every penny it gained since November 4, 2024 and is currently $6 below that point, Forbes is reporting that Tesla is no longer Musk’s most valuable asset. SpaceX is now the most valuable property.

Bloomberg just reported that Tesla has issued a recall for all Cybertrucks sold in the US during the last 15 months for the problem of the trim coming off. This is the second recall for the same problem.

The primary way Musk built his wealth is he uses Tesla stock as the way secure loans to pay for his purchases. If it continues to sink, that makes the worth of those purchases less. Newsweek reported he’s approaching the point of being hit with a margin call for what he used to buy Twitter. Does he have about $44 billion in cash?

An even bigger problem for him is the concerns that he’s so busy ripping apart the US Government that he doesn’t have time to run Tesla. Musk is the largest shareholder at 42% and is chairman of the board. If the stock keeps tanking, and the sale of some of their stock by the other members of the board is contributing to that, potentially he could be ousted by those other members.

Obama got to drive a '63 Stingray on Jerry Seinfeld’s Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee - while in office. They just did (slow) loops around the South Lawn at the White House.

Yeah, it’s only public roads they’re not allowed to drive on, for security reasons. The article I found yesterday talked about Bush driving around on his 90-acre ranch.

What is barely impacting Musk is horrific for anyone who has their car vandalized so badly it can’t be driven, or is chased down the road, or happens to work at a Tesla sales outlet.

All because one of the owners is someone they don’t like who did things they don’t approve of. But sure, JimBob who bought a Tesla 10 years ago to save the environment deserves to have his car burnt to the ground. In my rural Indiana town there are four or five Minecraft Trucks and at least a couple dozen Tesla coupes. I’m sure most of them are thankful they are in intolerant conservative areas instead of getting their vehicle keyed by caring inclusive progressive individuals.

Especially ironic if the people doing this drive a Ford, BMW, Mercedes, or Volkswagen. Companies that had very strong actual Nazi ties.