# Order of Retrocomputing Appreciatives - CoG chapter

**URL:** <https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155>\
**Category:** general\
**Created:** [May 16, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155 "2016-05-16T04:10:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/101 "2019-09-09T02:52:24Z")

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So I ended up with a spare Celeron 667 box, and was going to move it along but then last night I thought what the hey! Let’s put BeOS on this thing.

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Unfortunately it doesn’t like the onboard GPU, NIC or sound hardware, so I’ll have to eyeball them and see if there are any drivers. Otherwise I’ll have to find a PII or PIII board with discrete components (or at least an ISA slot or 2) so that I can mix’n’match.

Updates to come!

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 8:09am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/102 "2019-09-09T08:09:37Z")

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BeOS was a good thing back in the day.

Pity it died (like OS/2)…

This microsoft turdwaggon is starting to work on my tits like seriously.

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/103 "2019-09-09T12:38:10Z")

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Yeah, if I come across another Pentium-class box for cheap (enough) I’ll buy it and give it the OS/2 Warp treatment. Always been curious about that as well.

Going back to the Be(ige)Box, I did just find some drivers online for the onboard chipset and sound hardware… not sure if that includes the onboard NIC (fingers crossed it does) but if it doesn’t I think I have a Netgear 10/100TX PCI that is supported.

Now the questions become: how to get the driver to the machine (I’d say good old 3.5" over sneakernet) and then… how the hell do you install the drivers! Much ado to come.

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**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/104 "2019-09-09T21:56:53Z")

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> [@Ook](#):
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> BeOS was a good thing back in the day.
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> Pity it died (like OS/2)…

Both were ahead of their time, but tragically died for different reasons. I was blown away every time I watched BeOS do something crazy with multimedia on modest hardware.

OS/2…dang, Warp was great if you had enough hardware for it. It just ran DOS and Windows apps _too_ well.

Oh well, at least NeXTSTEP lives on…

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**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/105 "2019-09-09T22:37:45Z")

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I liked the beOS window chrome with the ‘tab’ interface. Not sure if it would make sense for a modern OS (window title bar space is valuable) but it looked neat in the mid 90s.

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**Author:** ![Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/viking/32/32_2.png) [@Viking](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Viking)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/106 "2019-09-24T12:27:44Z")

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Hey @moufassa,

How are you going with the PPC640 I shipped over to you? (And that Sinclair Spectrum, too.)

Did I include my genuine (and original) copy of Elite for the Spectrum? That must be worth a fortune by now…

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/107 "2019-09-25T01:50:25Z")

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Love the Amstrad PPC640. Managed to get it to display CGA nicely on a mate’s Commodore 1084s, and very poorly over a simple RGBI-to-VGA converter that I built. Haven’t done a lot of playing since (lots of other projects 🙂 ).

I tested out the Speccy at a meet and it seemed to work well (once it worked, that is… fiddly little thing). The patch board that maps joystick inputs to keys was a real curiosity - nobody (including me) had ever seen anything like it!

Yes, Elite was included in that package. 🙂

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/108 "2019-09-25T02:02:00Z")

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Oh… I have a couple of other friends who also have PPC640s - we’re gonna buy up some D-cells and head into a coffee shop (separately, within 10 or 15 mins of each other) and set up our machines on separate tables, and just start tapping away as if we were working on a modern laptop.

Need to get some kind of covert camera action going as well, so we can gauge people’s reactions.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/109 "2019-09-25T08:48:41Z")

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ZX80 clone…

> **[Minstrel ZX80 Clone](http://blog.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/2016/12/minstrel-zx80-clone.html)**
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> UPDATE 2: Issue 2 boards are available now,  more info here . Here is a new ZX80 clone that I have called the Minstrel. It is a fairly ...

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/110 "2019-09-25T08:49:35Z")

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Not retro, but I think it will fall in this category :

[https://basicengine.org/](https://basicengine.org/)

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/111 "2019-09-25T08:50:45Z")

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And some other stuff… although prices may be a bit rough.

[https://monotech.fwscart.com/index.aspx?pageid=6083507](https://monotech.fwscart.com/index.aspx?pageid=6083507)

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/112 "2019-09-26T03:09:25Z")

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> [@Ook](#):
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> [https://basicengine.org/](https://basicengine.org/)

That looks interesting!

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**Author:** ![sig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/sig/32/286_2.png) [@sig](https://cog.discourse.group/u/sig)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/113 "2019-09-26T14:14:14Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/2X/3/3527513b9a9d4d0aee7a68a16a88510f534a72ff.jpeg)  
Found in my grandfather’s garage. Everything carefully packed away inside; it probably still works as well as it ever did. [That’s just dust on the left side; brushed right off.]

I spent three weeks at their house in South Dakota one summer when I was 7 or 8. I played with this every day. I doubt it’s been used since.

> **[Mattel Aquarius](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattel_Aquarius)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> Aquarius is a home computer designed by Radofin and released by Mattel Electronics in 1983. Based on the Zilog Z80 microprocessor, the system has a rubber chiclet keyboard, 4K of RAM, and a subset of Microsoft BASIC in ROM. It connects to a television set for audiovisual output, and uses a cassette tape recorder for secondary data storage. A limited number of peripherals, such as a 40-column thermal printer, a 4-color printer/plotter, and a 300 ba...

[Edit: It’s in my garage now, pending a decision on what to do with it.]

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/114 "2019-09-26T17:51:44Z")

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That is worth quite a few bucks to a collector 🙂

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/115 "2019-09-27T02:45:37Z")

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> [@sig](#):
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> Found in my grandfather’s garage

What a find! I think those are not common, especially in that condition. Even the box looks to be in extremely good shape for 35+ years old.

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**Author:** ![sig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/sig/32/286_2.png) [@sig](https://cog.discourse.group/u/sig)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/116 "2019-10-02T14:47:21Z")

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I need to reach out to the Living Computer Museum in Seattle to see if they are interested. I have no need of this thing but don’t want to see it thrown out.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/117 "2019-10-02T18:24:29Z")

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I would’ve collected it in a heartbeat!

Here’s hoping the museum will take it!

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/118 "2019-10-04T03:09:32Z")

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I’d have taken it as well, if you weren’t on the other side of the world!

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**Author:** ![Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/viking/32/32_2.png) [@Viking](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Viking)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/119 "2019-10-04T07:53:39Z")

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Get him to post it to you!

(And get a 220 / 120v transformer if he does. 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/viking/32/32_2.png) [@Viking](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Viking)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/120 "2021-06-25T10:51:31Z")

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I just spent a day reading this guy’s blog. I admire his skills at reviving old computers and sort-of have a hankering to try my hand at it. Except I already have too many hobbies and not enough time or money…

> **[retrohax.net](https://retrohax.net/)**

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