# Order of Retrocomputing Appreciatives - CoG chapter

**URL:** <https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155>\
**Category:** general\
**Created:** [May 16, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155 "2016-05-16T04:10:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/141 "2022-01-12T17:30:35Z")

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Old stereos are definitely of a better build than today’s plastic crap.

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**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/142 "2022-01-13T00:41:42Z")

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While not really retro I do like the Fosi box and mini powered speaker system I got last year or the year before. The FOsi box is a mini-amp amp with inputs for,optical, usb, component, and Bluetooth and pumps out more sound than I’d ever need in my office.

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/143 "2022-01-13T02:41:30Z")

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> [@CaffeinatedNoms](#):
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> 90’s audio bliss

With accompanying visuals, when that lava lamp is switched on. 🙂

Also, is that a Classic or a Classic II there to the right?

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**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/144 "2022-01-13T03:26:19Z")

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I still use it.

I haven’t been to their webpage in ages. Apparently something is going on.

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/145 "2022-01-13T12:03:55Z")

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Alas it’s not a lavalamp but a jarred tornado. It also uses more AA batteries than conceivably possible.

Also Apollo there is a Classic II. Currently off in “quarantine” since the last time I booted him, it took fifteen attempts for the voltage stabiliser to stabilise before the tube would strike. I need to solder a new capacitor kit in there but haven’t got round to it yet.

Phoenix, the 5500 (their names are their developer codenames, it’s a theme we have) also needs new capacitors but the only thing actually wrong with her is the speakers have fused. New caps would stop that happening, as well as the screen jitter on startup; something beyond the rectifier is introducing noise until the electrics warm up.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/146 "2022-01-13T14:17:32Z")

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What’ll happen if you use a flux capacitor?

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/147 "2022-01-13T14:25:18Z")

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The components in the machine will get newer rather than degrading (optimistic) or I’ll send my Mac back to the dinosaurs (pessimistic).

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**Author:** ![TechnoMistress](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/technomistress/32/3981_2.png) [@TechnoMistress](https://cog.discourse.group/u/TechnoMistress)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/148 "2022-01-13T16:20:22Z")

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Same. I use a really old version - at least 15+ years.

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**Author:** ![Force10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/force10/32/1550_2.png) [@Force10](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Force10)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/149 "2022-01-14T00:03:21Z")

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> [@Ook](#):
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> What’ll happen if you use a flux capacitor?

When it hits 88 MPH, you’ll see some serious shit.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/150 "2022-01-18T10:14:16Z")

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You meant 88wpm?

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**Author:** ![Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/viking/32/32_2.png) [@Viking](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Viking)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 9:31am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/151 "2022-02-24T09:31:04Z")

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For those of you who still have old hardware (or old software that can run in an emulator), FreeDOS has just released v1.3.

> **[FreeDOS 1.3 released](https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/freedos_13/)**
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> DOS ain't dead... and it's more fun than ever

I might just have top grab that and have a play. No idea what I’ll use it for (if anything)…

Any useful ideas?

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/152 "2022-02-24T14:01:31Z")

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There’s Westwood’s _C&C Red Alert_, LucasArts’ _Star Wars Dark Forces_, and Bullfrog’s _Theme Hospital_ are my go-to DOS games

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**Author:** ![Rizak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rizak/32/4190_2.png) [@Rizak](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Rizak)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/153 "2022-02-24T14:57:44Z")

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Are you saying that I could play Wing Commander again?

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/154 "2022-02-24T15:48:31Z")

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Naturally! You’ve got _hours_ to burn

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/155 "2022-02-25T06:52:04Z")

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There are heaps of ‘abandonware’ sites out there. I never realised there were so many - hell, I even found a copy of NeXtStep v3 (or however you capitalise the damned thing) for x86.

That’s tempting, just for the “what was all the fuss about?” curiosity factor.

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**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/156 "2022-02-25T09:47:15Z")

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DOOM and Duke Nukem…

“come get some”

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/157 "2022-02-25T16:01:14Z")

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If you happen to run across Birth of the Federation, let me know. I haven’t been able to find that one. It’s kind of like Master of Orion, but Star Trek.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/158 "2022-02-25T21:44:17Z")

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I found a couple of copies on torrent sites.

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**Author:** ![RRabbit42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rrabbit42/32/79_2.png) [@RRabbit42](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RRabbit42)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/159 "2022-02-26T07:20:25Z")

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According to my list, I have the following Star Trek games.

Birth of the Federation  
Star Trek Armada  
Star Trek Armada II  
Star Trek ConQuest Online  
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force  
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force  
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force Expansion Pack  
Star Trek: Elite Force II  
Star Trek: 25th Anniversary  
Star Trek: Captain’s Chair  
Star Trek: Legacy  
Starfleet Academy

For Official Strategy Guides, Birth of the Federation and for both Voyager: EF games.

Most of them are the original releases that I would have bought at places like CompUSA and Fry’s, back when you could actually get your game in a box and usually a printed manual, rather than a CD/DVD case with a PDF on the disc. I think the only ones I ever played were Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force and STV:EF2.

I kept the game discs separate from the packages, so rounding those up might take sorting through a few boxes, but I know which one the Birth of the Federation package is in. @Nabiki, if I can find everything that goes with it, I’ll let you know.

I should dig these books out, too:

- Why Won’t This \*@#! Game Work?
- Running DOS Games Under Windows 95

I know companies like Good Old Games already did that kind of work, but it would be interesting to see what it used to take.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:40am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/order-of-retrocomputing-appreciatives-cog-chapter/1155/160 "2022-02-26T07:40:58Z")

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Got the original Starfleet Academy on CD discs.

Eldest daughter wanted to play it, but was bummed when it bombed out on win10.

I have purchased the same from [GOG.com](http://GOG.com) recently, as they have included a wrapper of some sort, to enable win10 compatibility.

No more messing around with CD discs, yay.

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