# Traffic Charlie Foxtrots **URL:** \ **Category:** general\ **Created:** [September 1, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205 "2016-09-01T17:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Force10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/force10/32/1550_2.png) [@Force10](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Force10)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/21 "2016-09-01T16:29:24Z")
Oh if we’re doing Charlie Foxtrots now we have a few of those. I’ll have to see what I can dig up when I get home. ---
**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/22 "2016-09-01T17:19:25Z")
@Nabiki - can we create a new thread called “traffic charlie foxtrots” and move the appropriate posts to there? ---
**Author:** ![Nabiki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/nabiki/32/935_2.png) [@Nabiki](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Nabiki)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/23 "2016-09-01T17:39:43Z")
Moved per request. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/24 "2016-09-01T18:37:04Z")
I was about to make the “I’m American” joke about how _tiny_ and _cute_ your DoD is and insert a picture of the WTFBBQOMG that is the Pentagon and surrounding roads, but I’m afraid of getting on more watch lists and it’s totally not funny. ---
**Author:** ![CryHavok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/cryhavok/32/413_2.png) [@CryHavok](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CryHavok)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/25 "2016-09-01T19:59:42Z")
Those aren’t roads, those are what happens when somebody spills a bowl of spaghetti. ---
**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/26 "2016-09-01T23:30:21Z")
> [@balance](#): > > They’re still marked with signs that say, “Drivers in circle have **riga** -of-way” or similar, though. No, only in [Latvia](https://goo.gl/maps/5WwvGzYYHAr) ---
**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/27 "2016-09-01T23:32:18Z")
> [@Force10](#): > > Oh if we’re doing Charlie Foxtrots now we have a few of those Your fellow SoCal citizens can’t drive if there’s a single drop of water on the road. I ever tell y’all about the time I was doing 60 on the interstate w/ 6 inches of snow on the ground (with more falling) and executing controlled drifts on the big curves? ---
**Author:** ![dakboy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/dakboy/32/68_2.png) [@dakboy](https://cog.discourse.group/u/dakboy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/28 "2016-09-01T23:34:21Z")
Is that a [SPUI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-point_urban_interchange)? How’s [5 roundabouts in less than half a mile](https://goo.gl/maps/hCpAVtuMC7A2) sound? ---
**Author:** ![Force10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/force10/32/1550_2.png) [@Force10](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Force10)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/29 "2016-09-02T00:07:37Z")
> [@dakboy](#): > > Your fellow SoCal citizens can’t drive if there’s a single drop of water on the road. This is not news. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/30 "2016-09-02T00:22:19Z")
> [@dakboy](#): > > How’s 5 roundabouts in less than half a mile sound? That’s just loopy! In that Canadian video, I saw him go through a series of roundabouts kind of like that. Still, strange to look at from above like that. ---
**Author:** ![Force10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/force10/32/1550_2.png) [@Force10](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Force10)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/31 "2016-09-02T03:34:46Z")
OK, so the north/south freeway on the left is I-805. The one on the right is I-15. The east/west freeway connecting them is I-8. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/2X/d/dd0fe17c0694c602ed08cc1f87cef0fcbda57f16.jpg) The interchanges themselves are fairly straightforward but are only about a mile apart. Which means that if you’re coming off 805 onto 8 east you have less than a mile to get over three lanes so as not to end up on 15. And if you’re coming off 15 onto 8 west it’s the same deal with 805. It doesn’t sound that bad but try it at rush hour with a freeway full of typical Southern California drivers who consider it a personal affront when anyone tries to merge in front of them and will go to great lengths to prevent it from happening. ---
**Author:** ![Ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/ook/32/72_2.png) [@Ook](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Ook)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/32 "2016-09-02T04:34:55Z")
Maybe I placed myself on a watch list… Oops. ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/33 "2016-09-02T12:13:11Z")
> [@dakboy](#): > > How’s 5 roundabouts in less than half a mile sound? Sounds like the are just north of Indianapolis, in grids. As for weather, I think the Midwest wins because of variety. Many places get colder, snowier, ranier, drier, and hotter. But none come in second in all those categories. I’ve hit the 105+ range here, and I’ve been here when it hit -27, I’ve been in two feet of snow, and I’ve made it through near monsoon as well as a multi month drought. We’ve had massive forest fires and floods, and earthquakes. It’s a true disaster melting pot. And now we’ve added rotaries. ---
**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/34 "2016-09-02T15:28:51Z")
> [@Ook](#): > > Maybe I placed myself on a watch list… Oops. One or two aren’t bad. But I’m flying for vacation in November. 😓 ---
**Author:** ![Guido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/guido/32/560_2.png) [@Guido](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Guido)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/35 "2016-09-02T16:53:31Z")
[This](https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/43.4469731,-80.5718737/43.4141503,-80.552851/@43.4339958,-80.5588592,14.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0) is the chunk of road in that video… it’s a lot of roundabouts. Like I said, our region has embraced them with a passion - those were all built in the last 5 years or so. ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/36 "2016-09-02T18:10:20Z")
I love these. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/2X/b/b6cba48e9c6fe027c2fe1b79ec77311fc351789b.jpg) https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.9711311,-86.1122124&z=17&output=embed&dg=ntvb ---
**Author:** ![Guido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/guido/32/560_2.png) [@Guido](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Guido)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/37 "2016-09-02T18:19:47Z")
I have never ever seen an intersection like that… too cool! ---
**Author:** ![Woodman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/woodman/32/24_2.png) [@Woodman](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Woodman)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/38 "2016-09-02T18:31:23Z")
All up and down that road. It was a normal road and they turned it into an almost limited access roadway. Just west of there they’ve just finished the spaghetti bowl on 465. It shows up on the road view but not the earth view. ---
**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/39 "2016-09-04T07:25:13Z")
Dog Bone Junctions are great for when you want a roundabout but already have a bridge that’s only wide enough for the old avenue. There are a couple in Tyneside and it’s great watching a huge HGV get stuck because of the hard left followed by a hard right 😛 As someone who grew up with roundabouts I find them pretty easy. However there are exceptions, like the Sands Roundabout in Carlisle which has two lanes on one side and **six** on the other. There’s also the A19/A189 junction near where I live which has a roundabout which has light-controlled access on four of its six entrances, and the control unit is an old analogue one which doesn’t keep up with its own instruction set and occasionally gives opposing traffic the green light _at the same time_. So many crashes! There’s usually a squad car permanently parked in the service station next to it just in case… ---
**Author:** ![RRabbit42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/rrabbit42/32/79_2.png) [@RRabbit42](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RRabbit42)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/40 "2016-09-04T14:54:59Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/2X/d/dd2129bda12a3dbe86fa25c816521c76caa545ae.jpg) Obviously, whomever designed this road never played the original _SimCity_. From the manual: “Traffic expands to fill available capacity.” I don’t think this is from the US like the caption says it is. Wherever it’s from, if they can build a 19-lane highway, then they can build a better mass transit system. [Previous page](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205.md?page=1) [Next page](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205.md?page=3)