# Traffic Charlie Foxtrots

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**Created:** [September 1, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205 "2016-09-01T17:19:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/traffic-charlie-foxtrots/1205/8 "2016-08-31T16:10:45Z")

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> [@Things you wish the other driver could hear, v3.0](https://cog.discourse.group/t/things-you-wish-the-other-driver-could-hear-v3-0/686/259):
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> You can find video on Youtube

The wiki article was good enough, appreciate the link.  
So yes, I don’t recall ever seeing that, but… DUDE, neato! I can see that eliminating a lot of wasted time and improving safety, thinking specifically about a couple of the interchanges around here. But, I don’t think they’ll be adopted here anytime soon. From the wiki disadvantages:

> Allowing exiting traffic to reenter the through road in the same direction requires leaving the interchange on the local road and turning around, e.g., via a median U-turn crossover. This affects several use cases:
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> - Drivers who take the wrong exit

- Bypassing a crash at the bridge
- Allowing an oversize load to bypass a low bridge

I can totally see that one being the deal-breaker here. Around here, the feeder roads run along the freeway for miles and miles. In urban areas, it is unusual to see a stretch of freeway without a feeder road. We have business driveways lining them. Texas even has its own subsection (the largest, of course) in the [service road wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontage_road#Texas). To do the double crossover here, they would need to build a straight through lane alongside the freeway, which they already do when they have cloverleaf interchanges, which they do a version of here:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/582a3ef9b035fa90520f54a6bd36a2c916d01eb8.jpg)

But there would not be nearly enough space to do either someplace like this:  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/7c1e426a0ee25e8dd1b910db934990bf001661bd.jpg)

Ooh, or here… another cluserfsck intersection:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/2X/0/0d3f1a4ea4dc9f05910b908f6f8262ec38d07856.jpg)

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\*The OCD in me is disturbed that the middle picture is actually the farthest north.

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