# Warning warning warning! Theme change coming!

**URL:** <https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090>\
**Category:** meta\
**Created:** [November 28, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090 "2015-11-28T17:39:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/1 "2015-11-28T17:39:03Z")

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I’ll probably spend a few hours this afternoon changing the forum’s theme around a bit because I’m bored with how it is now. Will likely be cribbing a few things from the [CircleCI Discourse forum](https://discuss.circleci.com/).

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/2 "2015-11-28T23:05:33Z")

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IT HAS HAPPENED.

Report any weirdness or stuff that’s broken!

(Note: “The typeface doesn’t look right” probably means you’re using Chrome on Windows 7 or possibly IE10 on Windows 7, or older, and if that’s the case I feel bad for you but you should consider using a browser/OS combo that correctly renders type!)

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**Author:** ![Nabiki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/nabiki/32/935_2.png) [@Nabiki](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Nabiki)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 1:54am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/3 "2015-11-29T01:54:03Z")

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No weirdness to report. It certainly looks different, but I think I like it.

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**Author:** ![GITM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/gitm/32/540_2.png) [@GITM](https://cog.discourse.group/u/GITM)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/4 "2015-11-29T02:28:20Z")

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Helvetica, about 15-16 point is what I’m supposed to be seeing? (Safari 9.0.1 on OS X 10.10.5 for the record.)

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**Author:** ![ClockWorkXon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/clockworkxon/32/593_2.png) [@ClockWorkXon](https://cog.discourse.group/u/ClockWorkXon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/5 "2015-11-29T02:54:29Z")

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Too much white space on the main page, before and after each topic title. I don’t think we really need a half inch, vertical, for each topic.

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/6 "2015-11-29T04:55:46Z")

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Yeah, @ClockWorkXon, agree on the whitespace. Smooshed it down to the default.

@GITM - typeface should be light Helvetica, yeah. The other option was Proxima Nova, which I have available to serve via `font-face`, but after going back and forth I think this looks better.

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/7 "2015-11-30T13:24:17Z")

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Can we put the notifications to a colour I’m not blind to? 😛 Greens and blues are fine, reds are a muddy grey to me.

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**Author:** ![RoadRunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/roadrunner/32/63_2.png) [@RoadRunner](https://cog.discourse.group/u/RoadRunner)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/8 "2015-11-30T20:33:16Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/a8884c81ea937ae39f9f6352fb38a3034ab20a15.JPG)

I saw this just now in Firefox.

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/9 "2015-12-01T02:54:30Z")

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I like this much better.

(The font that was used previously had a quirk where **bold** typeface was a few pixels taller than normal, and it gave me the irrits.)

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**Author:** ![balance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/balance/32/1888_2.png) [@balance](https://cog.discourse.group/u/balance)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/10 "2015-12-01T14:36:26Z")

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Fonts look a bit cleaner for me, at least.

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/11 "2015-12-01T16:32:49Z")

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> [@moufassa](#):
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> (The font that was used previously had a quirk where **bold** typeface was a few pixels taller than normal, and it gave me the irrits.)

Rather like the Ars website at the minute when viewed in Safari, anything in italics breaks line conformity…

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/530c3ef45f5ecfc613c805781111f5813d652ab0.png)

It wouldn’t be so bad if it at least uniformly broke line conformity but it distorts more the further down you go!

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**Author:** ![moufassa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/moufassa/32/41_2.png) [@moufassa](https://cog.discourse.group/u/moufassa)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/12 "2015-12-02T02:49:38Z")

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Rather like that, yes!

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**Author:** ![ClockWorkXon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/clockworkxon/32/593_2.png) [@ClockWorkXon](https://cog.discourse.group/u/ClockWorkXon)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/13 "2015-12-02T03:41:46Z")

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That looks like they are using a bad vertical alignment in the CSS. And they are using an em style with a larger font size (probably because they already have the font bolded).

WTH were they thinking?

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/14 "2015-12-02T19:18:40Z")

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> [@ClockWorkXon](#):
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> WTH were they thinking?

Something along the lines of “hey, this’ll get typographers really angry, and then we can do a full eight page article on good typography like we really want to do but have been told there’s no interest in.”

…okay I can dream, can’t I? 😛

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/15 "2015-12-03T00:19:46Z")

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Whaaa?

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/247c3a11da2fca086824a80a924e86f5db4d2096.jpg)

OS X El Cap, Safari 9, not seeing anything like that at all.

edited to add - not seeing anything like that behavior on any browser.

OS X Firefox, Safari, Chrome:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/cebf4db965eec324f348c0f3734fdb042fb92320.jpg)

Windows Firefox, Chrome, IE11:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/c7d87ac83ba7dd32745980892cb404fea9457d49.jpg)

edit^2 - I also don’t see any unusual CSS being applied to `<em>` objects in headlines, other than a line height adjustment to 1em—no funky padding or margin games:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/b28f2bbb1d84ae60f8b915c8eadffb34bd7969d3.png)

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/16 "2015-12-03T00:51:42Z")

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Hang on I’ll have a mooch into Other Browser territory.

FYI MacBook Pro 8,2; 2.2GHz i7; with the HighRes screen, El Cap 10.11.1

**EDIT** would you look at that, I open it in Opera and it’s just fine. Switch back to Safari, reload the page, and _it’s_ just fine as well now. After _weeks_. I … I declare shenanigans!

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/17 "2015-12-03T00:55:24Z")

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That’s wild. I’m seriously just not seeing that in Safari 9, on either my main iMac nor on my MBA.

Maybe it’s a retina thing? I don’t have any retina macs to check.

##SHENANIGANS  
 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/c36d9baccc0ab83507a1de94b18265a4e5e65ecc.jpg)

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**Author:** ![CaffeinatedNoms](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/caffeinatednoms/32/3779_2.png) [@CaffeinatedNoms](https://cog.discourse.group/u/CaffeinatedNoms)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/18 "2015-12-03T01:04:33Z")

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Well, it would appear that after a quick reboot and looking through Safari and Opera, that the weird text artefacts are banished. I guess that serves me right for not rebooting in over a month, heh heh.

Although, now that this mystery is solved, how about the mystery of why everything is all broken on my Virtual Computer setup? The whole website is unusable! 😉 hehehe

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/b88a68d826671d5d4f2904a20ac79316341d0497.png)

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Ars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/lee_ars/32/2338_2.png) [@Lee\_Ars](https://cog.discourse.group/u/Lee_Ars)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/19 "2015-12-03T01:06:14Z")

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Solution: upgrade from Classilla to…uh…Camino I guess? 🙂

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**Author:** ![ClockWorkXon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/cog.discourse.group/clockworkxon/32/593_2.png) [@ClockWorkXon](https://cog.discourse.group/u/ClockWorkXon)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090/20 "2015-12-03T01:08:38Z")

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/cog/original/1X/78a62e30e10b306a4fe804da58c6a91f3d42126e.jpg)

Found the problem.

[Next page](https://cog.discourse.group/t/warning-warning-warning-theme-change-coming/1090.md?page=2)
