Another Gun Free Zone that isn't

Well, I have gone on the record as stating (very often) that statistics, within the scope of the data, are descriptive, they are not predictive.

Regarding the media, the bias seems more towards what gets reported and what does not. Even within a single report, small aspects can be emphasized or ignored, changing the perceptions of the incident.

The headlines I saw on the Palestinians getting on the bus with knives in Israel last week.

MSNBC was like "Palestinian youths shot on bus."
Fox was like “Armed attack by Palestinian youths on bus of school children thwarted by Israeli military”

And while both are technically correct, it sure as h3ll shows bias.

Yeah, smooth move. He’s now under interim suspension, isn’t allowed on campus, and is off the football team.

Yeah, how’s that frustration going for you now, idiot?

You know, if it was a legit threat, how does this stop it?

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You know… the same way “No gun” signs stop bank robbe…umm… conveniece store rob… umm… well… I’m sure they do. :dancers: I feel better, anyway.

How does what stop it?

“Banning” him from campus, kicking him off the team.

If he’s crazy enough to do it then that shouldn’t even slow him down.

It isn’t intended to stop it. It’s intended to punish him.

The lockdowns and the increased police presence was supposed to stop it from happening.

I seriously question the label of “sniper” of the guy in San Diego. If he’s a sniper, why didn’t he hit anyone?

I hadn’t heard they were calling him a sniper. IMO that’s bullshit because he was just firing randomly.

Yep. Seems like San Diego had all kinds of fun yesterday. The so-called sniper, the felon wanted in Missouri, and then his girlfriend (also a felon wanted in Missouri). Only the woman lived.

Here’s live coverage of the hostage situation in Paris. The number of deaths keeps climbing as authorities go over the three different sites where there were explosions or gunmen opened fire on people at restaurants or bar.

Not too damn far from where my wife was staying last month. They were in that mall the last day they were there.

A friend is spending a month in Paris on vacation. She’s rarely on Facebook but used the “safety check-in” feature Friday night to report her status. Says she was 1-2 miles from where things were going down.

So much for the music video “shoot”.

Just my two cents:

We don’t advocate abolishing speed limits because people break them. We don’t ridicule air traffic controllers when someone ignores instructions and land their plane in the path of a 747. We don’t blame wives for getting beat up by their husbands (or vice versa) when such things are illegal.

GMZ’s are instances of a rule. People break rules. That’s why we have jails, prisons, and reality TV shows.

So why ridicule the rule, rather than blame the people who broke the rule?

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Ever listen to a really intense but civil argument about abortion? Eventually it comes down to “Even if you change the law people will still get them, so they might as well be legal and safe.” If you allow guns to be carried by law abiding citizens then I bet most guns in an area will be carried by law abiding citizens. Those people worry about shit like shooting at something missing and killing someone else, because they don’t want to go to prison. Most lawful use of a handgun doesn’t involve a magazine change. The dudes blasting away at each other at that party are going to jail if the cops find them, and likely were before they started playing duck hunt in public. So they give two shits about who else they hit. Don’t mean nothin.

There aren’t constitutional amendments that guarantee the right to speed, beat your wife, or crash a plane. I ridicule “Safe Spaces” and “Free Speech Zones” too. I go insane when some police department threatens to arrest people for not letting them set up a stake out in their house, or shuts down Boston to look for one guy. And civil forfeiture is literal government theft.

And really, if someone has a Gun Free Zone where they made sure no one had a gun, by metal detectors and searches, then that’s cool. If I enter that area I’ve decided to trust them with my safety, but a simple sign and no attempt to actually disarm anyone is stupid. It only stops the most conscientious, the most cautious, who are hte very people who should be armed in an emergency. It’s the difference between going to an NFL stadium and going to the mall. The stadium has metal detectors, wands, and sometimes pat searches. While the mall has a sign. The stadium has multiple armed officers ready to respond, along with hundreds of security personnel. The mall has a fat dude on a pursuit Segway with an illegal baton in his pocket.

I ridicule the rule because it’s security kabuki.

I guess I missed the part where you were upset that the places with GFZ’s had inadequate security. I apologize.

As far as the Constitution, I still think that the part about “a well-armed militia” gets passed over a lot.

It doesn’t get passed over.

And yeah, if a GFZ is effective sure. The issue with most of them is they don’t take guns from people, they politely ask that you not bring them. Which means rude people will.