No good deed goes unpunished. Jesus.
Officers were able to take the man into custody.
If there was ever a case for going off and shooting someone for āresisting arrestā this is one. Not good enough for the dude to shoot the guy once, letās unload into him. Though Iām thinking I might have run his ass over if I was there, āI was in fear of my lifeā covers a lot of sins, especially if itās true.
My first thought was, Please doesnāt let it be @sig or @Sunbeam. Then I remembered they are on the other side of the state.
This is just wrong on several levels.
Why were three little children left in a car in 40-50 degree weather?
Itās in Utah, those temps are mild Spring weather. Iād leave my kid in the car in that weather, hell thatās the temps we start thinking about opening a couple windows to get some fresh air in.
OTOH, why the fuck was a gun just laying around loaded? Why werenāt the kids taught to leave them alone and shown what a gun does to things. Take a kid out somewhere and shoot a watermelon with a pistol and tell them thatās why you donāt play with guns.
Ignorance is not bliss, or safety.
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No, that was Tennessee.
Hah, I saw UT Medical Center and got Utah out of it.
Still not a temp Iād be worried about compared to leaving a gun with a seven year-old.
Auburn isnāt TOO far away (just the other side of the Puget Sound; weāre directly west of it), but far enough that weāre not likely to be involved. 
Now, if you hear of a shooting in Port Orchard or Olalla, WA, itās still not likely to be is, but it will be in our backyard.
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Weird, itās been an hour or more since the first reports and nothing since.
Iāve been following this but details are sparse.
False alarm.
Though this confuses the shit out of me.
Apparently someone said they heard three shots in the basement of Building 26.
Emergency responders were doing a ātop downā search of the building, according to Nylander, and so far they have ānot located any evidenceā of a shooting
Shots heard in the basement, so letās start searching on the top floor.
I canāt tell, from the timeline of the CNN reports.
Thereās probably a standard building-clearing protocol. Iām not the guy on the scene, I wonāt second guess themā¦ but yeah, on the face of it it seems āoff.ā
Soā¦ presume there is an actual shooter, and clear the building. Thatās the ābest practiceā way to respond to an active shooter.
Orā¦ send lightly armed, lightly armored LEOs to confirm there is one before calling out the big guns.
So many points to be arguā¦ uhhā¦ discussed either way. If you make a mistake one way youāre seen to overreactā¦ make it the other and LEOs and other bystanders are shot up while the active shooter continues to rampage.
I guess all the people that were saying if they were black theyād be shot are feeling better now?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-siege-arrests/index.html
See also attempt at āHands up, donāt shoot.ā
Though considering the track record of the government dealing with guys like this, wouldnāt surprise me a bit if the dude was cooperating and got lit up.
Though itās an interesting charge. Not trespassing, or misuse of government property or anything. Itās a charge that in my mind just feeds the anti federal government force here.
āAll of the named defendants face a federal felony charge of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats.ā
Not that these dudes donāt deserve to be arrested, but man, feed the paranoia why donāt we?
Great article I just read on this too.
Long but good.
Well, the FBI is apparently calling for the remaining occupiers to surrender, come out with their hands up and without the weapons.
The occupiers are on a voice-only livecast with a Nevada state Representative. But none of them can shut up long enough for even one person to be heard coherently. Theyāre all talking and shouting over each other, calling out Bible quotes, etc., so nothing can be heard.
Itās pathetic.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/fbi-agents-surround-remaining-oregon-militants/
I donāt blame them for panicking. One dude has already been gunned down, Iām sure theyāve seen the video of him being shot in the back with his hands up. Iām aware that that video is inconclusive of what the hell he was actually doing when he was shot, but it is clear that he had his hands up at least a couple times. These guys arenāt going to assume he was going for a pistol, theyāve already decided he was murdered by the feds.
These people know Waco, they know Ruby Ridge. And now that one is dead Iām sure they all consider themselves martyrs. White men are the easiest for the government to kill. Especially if they have been prancing around talking about the blood of tyrants and the tree of liberty and shit.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Another set of yahoos that got the attention they wanted, then couldnāt figure out what they wanted to say and now refuse to pay the price. Dude, you want to occupy something, say your piece and go to jail, go for it. You want to occupy something, sit on your ass for a month, babble some bible verses, and then ask to go home and pretend nothing happened, sorry not happening.
Iām really conflicted on this one. I think the Hammonds got screwed, I think the BLM is a self serving government bureaucracy, and I think these guys are total idiots. Like literal idiots, the whole thing was unplanned and unthought through, and at every stage theyāve just made it worse.
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And hereās a time when it helps.
I didnāt know Clint Eastwood lived in Philly.
And what depresses me some is that no one else appears to have helped.
I read an article about the attacks and rape epidemic in Europe that was asking what everyone is doing during these public attacks. 40 men attack 10 women in a public place and no one does anything? Did the one attack on that train in France only get stopped because there were Americans on it?
Going to put my sexist hat on here real quick. Where the hell are the men? Or to take it off real quick, the self empowered women?