Oh dear.
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Came here to post this. 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
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And Animal Farm as well.
Also, Superiority.
We have interns spend time with our team at work. Itâs interesting to see how little experience they have with just about anything. They have no idea how the world works,
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In what way do they not have experience?
I would expect that a student working on a PhD in IT / Cyber Security would understand what networking is and how it works, along with concepts such as IP addresses, subnetting and non-routable private address ranges.
Or even the simple concept of âthe Internet is not a friendly placeâ.
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despair sets in
I made the jump from IPX/SPX (ahhh, Novell) to TCP/IP (well, hello Win NT 4 and OS/2 Warp) and had to learn about these thingsâŚ
Granted, I took a network engineering course, and learn about these things, but did not get any real, practical experience with TCP/IP until a bit later on.
Book knowledge is good to have, but the thing is practical experience. Without any practical experience, you cannot have a good frame of reference or experience on how things work.
Things will be understood better if you manage to break it, then fix it. This is also how I learnt on how Microsoft Active Directory operates.
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My kids understand this. I stil want to add a pi-hole to our home network, but sadly, funds, equipment and time are lacking.
Thatâs pretty much me - Iâll read books / manuals / web pages to get the information into my brain, but the real learning is when you actually do something.
Two things that canât be taught are intuition and experience - both of those require (demand?) the learning and doing before they can be gained.
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Same. Iâm a tactile learner. I find it a lot easier to learn things if Iâm doing, rather than reading about doing.
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I learned first aid but that was in Boy Scouts, not in school. The rest, though, not so much.
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I shudder to think how the government would choose to teach any of those things.
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Itâs worth noting that they got a lot of pushback from all over the political spectrum on this and are now planning to maintain the classic versions also:
After a week of international uproar about these âfixes,â Dahlâs publisher is now hoping to change the narrative again. On Friday, Puffin U.K. announced it would release the original texts of Dahlâs stories as a separate âClassic Collection,â alongside the newly updated editions. A spokesperson for the publisher said that by making both versions available, âwe are offering readers the choice to decide how they experience Roald Dahlâs magical, marvellous stories.â
I suspect the demand for the old ones will outstrip the new ones by a fair margin and they will die a quiet death, assuming they ever get as far as printing them.
Meanwhile, weâre all just glossing over the part in Trumpet of the Swan (E.B. White) where Louis buys his girlfriendâs freedom from the zoo by agreeing to periodically give it their future children. I just re-read this and it was really kind of jarring. I guess Iâm turning into a snowflake in my old age.
Customer: I saw it over thereâOlsenâs Standard Book Of British Birds.
Clerk: Olsenâs Standard Book Of British Birds?
Customer: Yes.
Clerk: O-L-S-E-N?
Customer: Yes.
Clerk: B-I-R-D-S?
Customer: Yes.
Clerk: Yes, well, we do have that, as a matter of fact-
Customer: The Expurgated Version?
Clerk: âŚSorry, I didnât quite catch that.
Customer: The Expurgated version?
Clerk: The Expurgated Version of Olsenâs Standard Book Of British Birds?!
Customer: The one without the gannet.
Clerk: The-- âŚone without the gannet?! Theyâve all got the gannetâitâs a standard British bird, the gannetâs in all the books!
Customer: Well, I donât like them. They wet their nests.
Clerk: Alright, Iâll remove it! [tearing] Any other birds you donât like?
Customer: I donât like the robin.
Clerk: The robin? Right, the robin! [tearing] There you are! Any others you donât like? Any others?
Customer: The nuthatch.
Clerk: Right, the nuthatch, the nuthatch, theyâre not in here! [tearing] Any more? No gannets, no robins, no nuthatches, thereâs your book!
Customer: I canât buy that, itâs torn!
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Modifying Ian Flemming now.
Removing racist language does not include removing anything against Asians apparently. Or gay people.
a segment describing accented dialogue as âstraight Harlem-Deep South with a lot of New York thrown inâ was also removed.
Oddly enough, thatâs a description which gives me a clear idea of the language used, and not that much about the race of the speaker. They âtoned downâ some sex scenes in US versions also.
Read a tweet on all of this that resonated. Instead of preparing old books so modern people can read them we should prepare modern people to read old books.
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Books written in another age when things were different.
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I think thatâs the same viewpoint as why a lot of Shakespeareâs plays are left as is when performed instead of trying to update the wording and suchlike.
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Changing a book is like trying to change history. It doesnât do us any good to try to brush history under the rug. We should take it out, examine it, and learn from it. Look at Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. There is a lot of casual prejudice against black people shown in those. Thatâs how it was. It isnât how it should be, but that doesnât change that it was that way back then.
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âTo kill a mockingbirdâ springs to mind.
Agree, they should leave the books as is, because thatâs history.
If youâre offended by it, get another book. Simple as that.
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