Politics is Stupid

Long article on Michigan’s role in the election. The weakness of the GOP, to the extent that the outgoing President still wields so much influence over the future, is not good for anyone.

The president asked them about allegations of fraud, and the legislators told him about various probes they had authorized to look into reports of irregularities. But Trump, perhaps sensing the nervous reticence of his guests, did not make the ask they feared. As the meeting went on, it became apparent to some people in the room that more than anything, Trump had called his Michigan allies to Washington to get an honest assessment of what had happened there. He wanted to know if there was any pathway to victory. They told him there was not.

“I don’t get it,” the president said, venting confusion and frustration. “All these other Republicans, all over the country, they all win their races. And I’m the only guy that loses?”

It, uh, doesn’t take an intelligence analyst.

More rumblings of Trump running again in 2024 and announcing it around January 20, 2021. This would effectively keep the Republican party hostage for four years.

On Sunday, Rudy Giuliani was admitted to the hospital after being diagnosed with COVID-19.

The Arizona Senate and House are closed this week and everyone’s working remotely because Giuliani met with GOP members on Monday to further claims the election was fraudulent. On Wednesday, he was at a state House committee hearing in Michigan for 4.5 hours. On Thursday, he was at a Senate hearing in Georgia about the election. During a break, he had a photo op where he took off his mask. No word yet on whether the state governments in Michigan and Georgia will also close as a precaution.

COVID tests were negative for Giuliani prior to the trips and didn’t turn out negative until two days afterward. Still, can’t be too careful. He’s 76 years old.

Now, I’m sure that as a good friend of Donald Trump, the President is going to direct the hospital to give Giuliani all the same extra treatments that he received that aren’t available to the general public, including that drug that helped Trump get out of the hospital in just a few days and made him feel good enough that he had to be talked out of wearing a Superman t-shirt on his way out of the hospital.

After all, that’s what a good friend would do, right? Make sure the people you like are taken care of, right?

Remind me again. When was the last time we had to worry about a U.S. President destroying documents before they left office. Was it Nixon? Or did we find out he did that after he was out of office?

A lawsuit has been filed against President Trump to prevent him from doing that before he leaves office.

I think there’s been concerns about every president since at least the 80s, to be honest. It’s just a louder voice this time because there’s so much verified suspicious behavior.

So Andy Biggs says that the vote in Arizona that resulted in him being elected to a third term in the House was fair. But those same ballots that helped elect him have fraud because Donald Trump didn’t win. Unless the fraud happened elsewhere in Arizona and left his district alone, in which case that makes perfect sense.

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An undetermined but significant number of American voters will always believe, without any actual evidence, that this election–one of the most closely watched, overseen, and analyzed in history–was stolen.

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Likely the same portion that thought the last election was stolen.

Even without Trump and his Twitter account if you spend 4 years saying the election was stolen people are going to doubt the whole system.

I think there is a quantifiable and qualifiable difference in the narrative, particularly when the losing candidate files dozens of frivolous lawsuits and is supported at least passively by their political party. He’s now openly calling for the election to be overturned.

I don’t really recall much noise about the 2016 election from the left re: fraud so much as endless navel-gazing trying to figure out how this horrible thing could have happened. (Hint: you picked the one person on the planet less popular than the GOP candidate.) Searching for election fraud in 2016 mostly brings up stories debunking GOP claims of fraud, e.g.:

Now if we’re talking about foreign interference in terms of disinformatsiya campaigns and the like, that’s another story, but it has little to do with stealing the election so much as influencing low information voters.

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There’s a bit of difference between 2016 which had a lot of “I am stunned this happened; I can’t believe this happened; and Private Citizens are claiming it’s rigged but not actually doing anything” and 2020 which seems to be “Let’s open increasingly ridiculous lawsuits because we don’t like the results.”

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After the 2016 election, cognitive dissonance hit hard, with everyone trying to rationalize what they were so sure was going to be true turned out not to be. It didn’t help that there had been maneuvering behind the scenes to make sure that Hillary Clinton was the Presidential candidate at the expense of Bernie Sanders. That may have been a better presidential race: Democratic businessman versus Republican businessman.

Cognitive dissonance came back a month ago stronger than before, fueled by Trump himself. “Stop the steal” was actually around in 2016, but as we remember, Trump preemptively started casting doubt about this election before it happened. “If I don’t win, it’s because there’s fraud.” Had he won, he would have boasted about how good the election process is. “I won so that means it’s right.”

Back in the 2016 race, Trump was demonized as The Next Hitler™. That’s part of why I voted for him then. I didn’t like the idea of being told, “You can’t like him because we say you can’t.” Another part is that’s a tactic that’s been played often in previous elections. “Imagine something horrible. If you vote for the other guy, it will come true and be even worse than that. But if you vote for me, it’s will be all peaches and cream and milk and honey and puppies and kittens.” MAGA, anyone?

While there hasn’t been anything on the level of people being sent to concentration camps, an argument could be made that Trump’s inaction towards the pandemic, including publicly downplaying it while privately knowing it’s serious, is going to result in more people dying than if the effort had been put into dealing with it, and in a way, that makes him responsible for those deaths. Trump’s used to dealing with battles and wars against people, mostly financial. He can maneuver, outwit, put spin on things to be in his favor and sling lawsuits against a person or a company to get what he wants. Not so a disease.

Since he can’t use his standard methods against a disease, he’s obsessing over the election. And while he’s desperately trying to find a miracle that will make him look good and look like a winner again, he’s losing against that disease. Might as well go play golf again at taxpayer expense for both the use of Air Force One and that he can charge the U.S. Secret Service for staying there as they guard him.

And while Trump didn’t become The Next Hitler™, his behavior does have parallels with what happened then. Holing up, denying reality, lashing out at people that are trying to tell him the truth, believing wunderwaffe (miracle weapons) would save him. A leader whose cause shifts over time away from that cause to be all about the person. There’s a few articles that are comparing this to fascism or a cult of personality, and how Republicans giving overt or silent support to Trump’s actions is like when Joseph McCarthy had the government and the people so afraid of Communism that he could wave a piece of paper and claim it had 130 names on it. Over a decade earlier, it was, “It’s all the Jews’ fault. Except you, of course, Eva.” Recently, it was, “It’s all the immigrants’ fault. A wall will make it all better.”

Edward R. Murrow’s concluding remarks on the first of two See It Now episodes about McCarthy were relevant then and they fit just as well today:

No one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men—not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy’s methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities. As a nation we have come into our full inheritance at a tender age. We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. And whose fault is that? Not really his. He didn’t create this situation of fear; he merely exploited it—and rather successfully. Cassius was right: “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves.”

And McCarthy’s paranoia likely allowed more agents to infiltrate the US than would have if he hadn’t done it.

Looking at history the government and many of its agencies and universities were all infiltrated. The effect of USSR agents on the US may never really be discovered. Not just because they were communists but because many were actual Soviet agents.

See also today China. Swallwell, Pelosi, and Feinstein have all had actual Chinese agents working for them for years. Or lool at the Pakistani IT guys working for the Democrats in the House that disappeared when too many questions were asked.

The article doesn’t say the Michigan government is closing, but 29 people that work there now have COVID-19.

When he likes you, Trump sings your praises. When he doesn’t like you, he makes sure the world knows.

TIME magazine just announced Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as their Person of the Year. No reaction from Trump yet, but here’s how he reacted in previous years:

  • 2012: not selected for a different list. “I knew last year that @TIME Magazine lost all credibility when they didn’t include me in their Top 100…,”
  • 2012: “Despite the upcoming election, the cover of paper-thin Time Magazine looks like an ad for the movie Lincoln–sad!”
  • 2013: not selected. “The Time Magazine list of the 100 Most Influential People is a joke and stunt of a magazine that will, like Newsweek, soon be dead. Bad list!”
  • 2013: “Just took a look at Time Magazine-looks really flimsy like a free handout at a parking lot! The sad end is coming-just like Newsweek!”
  • 2015: not selected. “I told you @TIME Magazine would never pick me as person of the year despite being the big favorite. They picked the person who is ruining Germany.”

  • 2016: selected as Person of the Year. “Thank you to Time Magazine and Financial Times for naming me ‘Person of the Year’ - a great honor!”

  • 2017: before the announcement of POY candidates. " *Time Magazine called to say that I was PROBABLY going to be named ‘Man (Person) of the Year,’ like last year, but I would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. I said probably is no good and took a pass. Thanks anyway!" Refuted by TIME’s chief content creator as “Not a speck of truth here.”

Trump got on the short list for 2018 and 2019 but didn’t get selected. I wasn’t able to find his reaction to those.

Five in a row of “You’re a loser because you didn’t pick me” followed by “You like me, you really like me” and then a preemptive spin to make it so he wouldn’t be a loser.

Seven years later, both magazines are still in business, despite his predictions of their demise.

I will file this along with Obama winning the Nobel Prize.

Which was also stupid.

A better choice.

The writer has a point - those two would be far more worthy winners. But I almost didn’t read the whole thing because the beginning of it was so snide. If she took out the 2nd and 3rd paragraph (or at least tried to write them without sneering) it would actually be pretty good article. As it is it leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth.

As a conservative I stopped reading for tone at least a decade ago. I mean if I paid any attention to that scrap I’d believe I’m a sexist, racist, homophobic, asshole. And the I’d have to lose more than half my friends.

I’m about to start snoozing people by the dozen on Facebook too. People I’ve had perfectly reasonable conversations and that I consider friends, or even family, are making blanket statements that include me and telling me what a horrific person I am. Not to mention the ones that casually make statements about reeducation camps or simply wishing I get COVID and die. I assume that’s the general feeling of my leftist friends since most cheer and agree.

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I’ve never understood that sort of rubbish. I sometimes read articles on Quora and get absolutely mystified by some of the comments:
“Democrats/Republicans/Conservatives/Liberals are all (insert author’s pet peeve here)”
Umm… no they aren’t. Everyone is a mix of things. Nobody is all conservative or all liberal, some democrats/republicans are good people, some are bad people, most are a mixture of both.

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