Except they didn’t need her testimony. There is video of her dumping the gun. And plenty of testimony on Hunter lying to buy it.
Really, in DC she committed the worse crime. People lie on their gun forms all the time and there is no penalty for the vast majority, but stealing a gun and dumping it in a dumpster? Woof.
What I wonder here though is why no one ever seems to have tried to stop Hunter, dude must have hypnotic type personality for so many people to let him keep going the way he has. Hell, the military didn’t even court marshal him for cocaine.
Reaction to Trump’s conviction:
Doxx the judge, the judge’s daughter, the prosecutor
“It’s a witch hunt”
“The judge is corrupt”
“The prosecutor is corrupt”
Reaction to Hunter Biden’s conviction:
“It’s fair, but sad”
“We respect the rule of law, and will support Hunter in any way we can”
The jury convicted Hunter Biden in accordance w/the evidence. But what was really outrageous was how the judge & his staff were threatened throughout the trial, how the prosecutors were doxxed, how the witnesses were hounded, how the jurors were endangered . . .
Hunter; bought gun illegally, girlfriend stole it and threw it in a dumpster where a dumpster diver found it, across from a school.
If everyone knows someone well known lied on a 4473, why should anyone tell the truth? It’s bad enough they prosecute like half a dozen a year out of the tens of thousands where people are caught lying. I would think He would be going to jail based on the video of him snorting cocaine and paying off hookers, but what do I know? (It’s a weird branch of “celebrity” where everyone knows it happened and there is even evidence, but nothing seems to happen.)
Donald, paid a lawyer to get someone to sign an NDA. Four pages of legal warfare later, poof! Federal crime, based on his attempt to commit a felony he was never charged with.
One case is pretty simple with tons of direct evidence, even if the actual charges seem unnecessary, the other an esoteric law exercise.
Which completely ignores the central issue of what I wrote.
Only one of those cases resulted in death threats to the judge, the judge’s wife, the judge’s daughter, the prosecutors, the jury.
Not saying death threats are appropriate, but only one side gets to use them for political capital while the other side has to listen to celebrations when people are attacked or die. Multiple prominent Republicans attacked in the last several years, can’t think of a serious one on a national Democrat in decades.
I would bet the reprecussions of finding Trump not guilty would be worse than a guilty verdict. The press is well known to accidently leak info when someone has to pay for their actions.
Kind of over the whole thing. Just like how a progressive mob invading the capitol is no big deal and conservatives shouldnt complain but a conservative mob coming in is the worst thing since Eve ate an apple and everyone is going to die.
Apart from Nancy Pelosi’s husband you mean?
According to this article,
Of the 14 fatal political attacks since the Capitol riot in which the perpetrator or suspect had a clear partisan leaning, 13 were right-wing assailants. One was on the left
Perhaps it’s no big deal because they didn’t actually do anything? The reason I say that is because the only reference to leftists attacking the Capitol is from 1971, I have no idea what you are talking about apart from that.
In contrast to that, an armed mob attacking police, breaking down doors, invading offices, carrying gallows wanting to hang Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi - yeah, that’s kind of a big deal.
Supreme Court hearing for Kavanaugh is an easy example, scores if not hundreds of people onvaded the hearing and protested enough to get it shut down at least once or twice… Multiple other Senate hearings have protestors burst in. The Supreme Court conservatives had mobs surrounding thier homes after the Roe V Wade decision. Oddly enough these people make it into these rooms with their signs and bullhorns and in numbers big enough to overwhelm security on a semi regular basis.
I am not talking about random attacks out there that are blamed on one party or the other. Im talking about Rand Paul being attacked by his progressive neighbor while mowing. The Republican softball practice having a Bernie Bro walk up and double check they were republicans and start shooting.
Nancy Pelosi’s husband’s attack was some weird shit from a local homeless man.
The “armed” mob had not one knife, or gun. At best they had flag poles and whatever the police threw at them. If they had wanted to kill someone they would be dead. Most of them were let into the capitol like any other protest. It was a riot and a mostly peaceful protest all wrapped up into a big mess.
What i am referring to is the national day of mourning when a progressive icon dies, and the thinly veiled blood dancing when a conservative one dies. Hell, its happened in this forum enough, go check the RIP thread.
It depends on what you call the bad part of Jan 6th. The riot, or the attempt to intimidate the government. If it’s the riot, sure, it’s worse than most DC protests indoors. If it’s the attempt to intimate the government, they did a shit job. People like AOC were tweeting they thought they were going to die or something when they weren’t even near anything. Everyone was freaked out because conservatives don’t normally do this sort of thing and no one knew what was going to happen.
“They didn’t really do anything” assumes that no one is concerned about hundreds of people surrounding a hearing room, or someone’s residence, or the Supreme Court. What has more of an impact on the government? The one conservative attack on the Capitol, or the dozens of cases where progressives have rioted, or burst into hearings or attacked Republicans? “We shouldn’t decide this way because last time they barely caught the guy on his way to kill a Supreme”, or “When I voted to confirm that Judge the crowd was screaming that they would remember my name and my vote”.
Wow, that’s some convolutred logic there. Injuring 140 police is bad, but let’s give them a pass on the insurrection because they failed. That’s Bill Barrian logic.
How about we free all those people in jail for attempted murder? After all, they failed didn’t they?
And let’s call it what it was. It has been adjudged in court to be an insurrection, and even the current Supreme court didn’t overturn that adjudgement.
People have the right to protest. That’s enshrined in your constitution.
They don’t have the right to try and overturn the government.
Not a single person was charged with insurrection. Because it wasn’t an insurrection. They didn’t even fail, they didnt try. Why is this so hard to understand. If they really wanted to start stacking bodies they would have brought weapons and actually done it. They could not have been stopped before they did it.
Well, except for the ones who were charged with seditious conspiracy, which is defined as:
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
As of January 2024, ten people have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy in connection with the J6 insurrection/riot/whatever you want to call it.
The fact that not a single justice today issued a single sentence disputing the finding that Donald Trump engaged in insurrection is incredibly telling. Yes, they let him off on a technicality, but there is no question that he is an oath-breaking insurrectionist.
Biden pretty much confirmed that he’s too old to run for president.
Trump confirmed that he’s a lying malignant narcicist (he either lied or didn’t answer for pretty much every question)
Donald Trump’s words and actions leading up to the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol have hinged on whether they were an official act as President or if they were done by a political candidate. Those didn’t automatically overlap.
The Supreme Court just ruled that “We conclude that under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of presidential power requires that a former president have some immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office. At least with respect to the President’s exercise of his core constitutional powers, this immunity must be absolute.” Followed by ““The President enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the President does is official. The President is not above the law.”
It took me five seconds to figure out how to turn this limited immunity into complete immunity: redefine what constitutes an official Presidential act as “anything the President says or does that occurs the moment they are sworn in to the moment they leave office”.
If Trump gets back in as President, how long do you think it would take him to get that new definition implemented?
If Trump is president in 2025 he wont have time to do anything of the sort because things like the Steele Dossier and other assorted BS will take 90% of everyone’s time. It will be constant external attacks and soft rebellion in DC. Plenty of departments were ignoring the appointed head and just doing business as normal the first time he was President, the second time I doubt if they will pay any more attention to a lame duck.
Hell, some of it might even be real this time, but from Biden’s illegal use of wire tapping instead of Obama’s.
The Republican project 2025 document of what they plan on enacting sounds like America is about to be Hitler’s America. The basic rights they plan on stripping from women, PoC, and lgbt+ is just the start. We are not in a good place as a country, and i expect down fall soon.
Im concerned enough that I am considering packing Bug out bags and looking to move out of the states. I live in California, im sure it will be one of the states that fight the behavior of the far right, but i don’t trust it.
