Dungeons and Dragons

I’ve been asked to GM a game. I refuse to buy more books, so I’m going to make people use the ones I already have. I have at least two copies of each book, though, so that shouldn’t be an issue. I think my latest versions are 5, but I’ll have to go check my D&D bookcase to be sure. I have editions from 1st up until there.

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I mean most of the books can be grabbed online in pdf for cheap or for free archival reasons.

Yeah, but when you’re sitting around a table, it can be a lot easier to have the physical books.

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They also give you something to read when your character isn’t doing anything at that moment. (If you get called up on it you can always say that you were looking something up.)

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I ran my first game last weekend. God, it was way more difficult than i thought. Somehow when i took a 5 min water break the players decided to roll for dick and ball size. Ill post my notes here later but it was a cluster fuck. 2 encounters took 4 hours. One person was killed, in the first fight.

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Sounds about right. 4-8 sessions in the whole thing will implode. Get it started back up immediately, just like riding a horse.

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How old are these guys, 14?

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The youngest is my partner at 24. The guy that started it is 31 if i remember correctly. A year older than me, and far more chaotic than i was warned.

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I broke up with my DnD group. They will need to find a new dm and fighter for them.

They were a horrible first campaign for me. We didn’t even finish a starter campaign.
It was constant fucking around and getting too drunk to play.
On guy spent 2 hours yelling in my ear during the last session trying to get everyone to quit and go to a club 3 hours away with him.
One player would just not pay attention and draw furry porn (Wish this was a joke) the entire time.

My GF and one player actually tried and I will prob invite him to play again if I start a new campaign.

D&D, where you can be anything you want as long as it’s just like everything else. From a loose configuration of guiding principles to such granular equity guidelines it’s a different game.

From what I’ve been reading it seems like every race is the same now, just humans wearing skin suits of different races. Syndrome was right.

This is one of the many reasons I prefer Pathfinder.

I find the whole thing kind of demeaning and insulting. “In order to prevent our customers form being racists IRL we are removing game mechanics”. It’s like guess what asshole, I will guarantee someone out there has figured out racial bonuses and penalties based on their interpretation of real world races. And changing your ruleset will have zero effect on those people, while the rest of the world looks at your tapioca world setting and shrugs while continuing to not buy into your game as a subscription model.

I don’t see why I can’t play Pathfinder 1.0 for forever. Or 3.5, or DCC, or Shadowrun 2.0, or whatever rather than your social science training wheels bullshit.

Its really not that hard to understand. If an old version was racist or derogatory, its should be removed. Its called being compassionate to others. Its really not that hard of a concept. Thats why they got rid of racial alignments in DnD.

Except Orcs aren’t real.

No, but the depictions in the game reflected people of color and negative stereotypes around them. Same thing with depictions of goblins. They want more people to feel safe and welcome regardless of skin color, nationality, and background. Removing things that can be hurtful is great way to bring players in.

I cannot help if someone sees the depiction of a race of feral horrific people eating monsters being evil as a representation of themselves, seems like therapy will help more than changing game rules.

You do realize stereotypes are not put on an individual by their choice, but by others in the world around them right? You can pretend as much as you want that people don’t hide things in the media they make that enforce that stereotype. But they do. People see those “hidden” behaviors and understand that they represent real people who can and are hurt by it.

And the people that say things like Orcs are based on black people are the ones that are racist. Hell, the original templates made during super racist olden times had pig heads and were often pink. Maybe they are making fun of Cop stereotypes.

If I say that Kobolds are sneaky and mean and set traps, some stereotype out there somewhere will fit that. Is what is being said here is that it’s impossible to create something bad and evil without it being based on real people? Is that an advance past separating the real world from fiction? Can we not see that it is a common fantasy trope that evil things are evil and behaviors are assigned because they are viewed as negatives? Just because someone may look at those things and decide that those fit negative views of themselves doesn’t mean anything beyond a lack of something in the viewer. You are infantilizing the people you are protecting.

The creators of content cannot control how people view that content. People look for hidden content, even when the curtains are just fucking blue. And if there happens to be a group that is offended by content, they can always just rule zero it, just like an awful lot of people now have totally evil soulless orcs who get bonuses to strength and a negative to intelligence, because that doesn’t represent anything real and it’s a game.

It offends you, I get it, lots of things offend and bother me and I live with it. Just like adults do. A life and philosophy not challenged is one not worth living. And this has definitely entered the not worth arguing territory.

Sometimes, when someone hears a dog whistle it’s because they’re the dog. They hear it because it’s what they think of other people. OMG, they can’t say that about Elves, X will that that’s about them, because that’s what I think they are.