His Muskiness and Twitter

From what I have seen in the tech world often they just pay out 60 days and offer job training and COBRA payments and those lawsuits die stillborn.

Yes, but they have to do that, which often requires a lawsuit because companies keep trying tog et away with illegal stuff.

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I’m not sure whether to post this here or on the “what made you happy” thread.

When Musk was proposing the purchase he was all about free speech and not censoring people.

That all changed after ‘Tesla’ tweeted “you just can’t build cars that explode anymore with the way cancel culture is these days.”

The fact that the price gouger Lilly tweeted “We’re excited to announce insulin is free now.” and promptly dropped 4.5% of their stock price may also have helped change his mind :rofl:

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I thought the his article was a really good overview of why running a big social network is hard:

It definitely makes me favor smaller, focused forums that can mostly do what they want, but even then there’s some problems like the dumb Texas thing,

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As of this morning, Twitter has 12% of its employees left. Musk’s demand of “be hardcore, work 80 hours a week or take a 3 months’ severance package and leave” resulted in 3 out of 4 choosing to leave.

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I have learned a lot of interesting things and have gotten a lot of value from Twitter over the years–but mostly those days are well behind me.

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I think he has bitten off more than he could chew.

I’m hearing a lot of interesting comments from various podcasters in the ‘tech journalism’ sphere that Twitter is/was a major way for them to keep track of things. It is, sadly, more accepted than RSS (and some of the people I’m hearing comments from love RSS) but it’s omnipresent and a good source for a unified news feed for certain topics.

Something I hadn’t considered is even if you run a good “PR” setup for a company with a custom blog you inevitably need to do occasional blocks of bad actors (I’ve blocked a bunch of Russian spammers, phishers, and worst threads from some services the last few months…) but twitter is relatively wide open so everyone can see your news, even if Important Tech Journalist somehow got the IP address you blocked because of some script kiddie six years ago.

Musk looking at code

There’s a YouTube channel called “Beau of the Fifth Column”. Apparently he suggested that Musk buy Fox News next :rofl:

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I’ve seen Facebook as a preferred Musk purchase. But he’s so leveraged now I doubt he can buy anything substantial with risking ownership of SpaceX. Tesla, with his recent stock sales, is in danger of slipping through his fingers already. Even his family could consider him too detrimental to their investment to keep him around.

Should be good for some laughs.

Why? Somebody want to dredge up old tweets for reposting?

Or they’re looking for something but cannot find it?

Can you spell hypocirte?

Elon Jet, the Twitter account tracking Elon Musk’s flights, was permanently suspended

(And yes, the misspelling was deliberate :slight_smile: )

Add in the fact that among the people who got their accounts reactivated, Alex Jones was deliberately not there. Musk is adamant that it will never happen because of what Jones has said about children and Musk had a child that died in his arms.

So instead of the much harder “I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it” type of free speech, Musk is going for “You can have free speech as long as it doesn’t affect me personally.”

Oh, look, it’s the new boss, same as the old boss.

Except that the old boss never claimed to be a champion of free speech :laughing:

He has now doubled down on his hypocrisy.
Elon Musk bans several prominent journalists from Twitter, calling into question his commitment to free speech

Twitter claimed that it’s due to them posting location information, however that’s not entirely true. Some of them just reported on the fact that the Elon Jet account was suspended - in a not very flattering way.

It has gone beyond that. Yesterday, the journalists got together on Twitter Spaces to talk about being banned. It had a bug that allowed blocked users to still use it. Musk joins in to answer questions. If you want to hear part of it, you can with CNN’s report on the ban or this one from The Young Turks channel. Not long after, Twitter Spaces was taken offline, presumably to fix the bug. Or, if you look at it cynically, it’s Musk getting rid of something that was used to criticize him. Musk is now taking legal action against Jack Sweeney, who runs the Elon Jet account.

Musk stated that if you link to the information, it’s the same as you posting the information yourself. He said previously that he considers the Elon Jet account to be doxxing because it provides “assassination coordinates”. (It might be a different word than “coordinates”. Can’t remember right now which it was.) Therefore, if you link to anything related to Elon Jet, even if it’s on an different site, you yourself are providing that information yourself. “You dox, you get suspended. End of story. That’s it.”

Another question from the meeting: How does prohibiting linking to information being reported differ from the link blocking of Hunter Biden info that Musk objected to before? He doesn’t answer because he goes into the “you dox, you’re gone” statement, then he left.

Afterward, Musk does a poll on “Unsuspend accounts who doxxed my exact location in real-time”. The “Now” choice gets 43%. The other choices were Tomorrow, 7 days from now, and Longer, with the last one getting 38.1% out of the half million votes. Musk decides he doesn’t like it and says “Sorry, too many options. Will redo poll.” New poll had two choices: “Now” and “in 7 days”. The first got 58.7% of 3.2 million votes. Musk conveniently doesn’t respond. The blocked accounts are still blocked.

There’s also reports that link blocking is being applied to anything relating to Mastodon and may have exposed Twitter to anticompetitive or other regulatory implications. Good luck dealing with that, Musk, after you gutted the Twitter legal department.

Five weeks ago, Musk tweeted, “My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk”. Twitter has now fact-checked that tweet and appended “The implied account in this tweet is elonjet, which is currently banned”. A half hour later, he tweeted, “Real-time posting of someone else’s location violates doxxing policy, but delayed posting of locations are ok”. Fact-check addition: “Publishing flight records is protected under the First Amendment. Cf. Smith v. Daily Mail Pub. Co., 443 U.S. 97 (1979)”.

Meanwhile, Musk posted a video of a “crazy stalker” who followed a car with one of his kids in it, complete with the license plate, and asks if anyone knows who it is. This appears to be in violation of the updated Twitter policy that was revised this month: “In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent.”


Teeny tiny little problem #1: If you cannot link to information you are reporting on, then you'll have to cite your sources in some other place. But then you can't link to that other place on Twitter because that link links to prohibited information.

Teeny tiny little problem #2: If you cannot post images or videos of private individuals without their consent, then any picture or video that has any people in it can no longer be posted. Example, you’re at Yellowstone Park and take a picture of the Old Faithful geyser. If that picture has anyone visible in it, you cannot share it on Twitter unless you ask every one of them if you can post it, even if they’re so far away that absolutely no personal information can be obtained from it beyond “Well, that looks like a human being, they appear to be wearing clothes and their hair is either auburn or brown.” Heaven help you if you take a picture at any sporting event because you will never get every person in the crowd to give you permission. At the very least, some will leave before you’d get a chance to ask them.

Techdirt’s content moderation speed run that @balance linked to last month opens with this: “It’s kind of a rite of passage for any new social media network. They show up, insist that they’re the “platform for free speech” without quite understanding what that actually means, and then they quickly discover a whole bunch of fairly fundamental ideas, institute a bunch of rapid (often sloppy) changes… and in the end, they basically all end up in the same general vicinity, with just a few small differences on the margin.”

Musk is adding to the cycle of compliance and content moderation issues that have to be revised because of his “if it affects me stance, it’s gone” stance. It is a sloppy, reactionary way of dealing with things and it will be never-ending.

I have been systematically deleting all of my content there (where I’ve been fairly active since 2013) using tweetdelete.net. Any value that place once had is mostly gone, and after a while sticking around is tacitly accepting the new norms. I decline. I do not wish anything I added to be part of the inevitable fire sale of data assets to developers working for some shady regime somewhere.

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They did claim to be unbiased, which they weren’t.

It is amazing the amount of effort is being put in to analyze Twitter now after people have been ignoring it’s policies for ages. If they were analyzed like this before Musk bought them he likely wouldn’t have bothered.

So, once again, a “conservative” (not really) takes something over and the press does it’s job. Just like we know more about what the president is doing when he’s a conservative than a liberal.