Politics is Stupid

The Law of Unintended Consequences will happen because of things like the above.

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I’ve heard suggestions that precedent exists that Lawyers can’t use the “I was only kidding!” excuse. I’d assume this is meant to only be when speaking to the courts, but didn’t this woman file legal paperwork? You shouldn’t, especially if a lawyer, file paperwork as per of a jape or goof.

“No reasonable people would believe her election fraud claims.” Right. Because when reasonable people have heard the person they believe in say over and over again that the election was fraudulent, and believed what he said so much that they made the effort to be at Washington D.C. on the day the electoral college votes were to be certified, and after listening for a couple of hours to different people, including Trump, telling them what was going to happen that day was wrong and shouldn’t happen, the very reasonable people then made the decision that after all that they heard, their best course of action was to walk down to the Senate building and to give the police hugs and kisses.

No, I’m not making that up.

Last night, when Donald Trump was on Fox News and was questioned about the security and precautions on January 6th, his answer included the following:

“It was zero threat, right from the start, it was zero threat. Look, they went in, they shouldn’t have done it. Some of them went in, and they are hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know, they had great relationship. A lot of the people were waved in, and then they walked in and they walked out.”

This may have been in reference to the selfie that a police officer took and protesters being let in. But even if some actually did that, it’s only a small fraction of what happened on that day and doesn’t excuse it.


Some of the negative things that have happened to Trump recently have more than just a financial impact. The impact can also be to his ego and social status. The loss of his social media accounts and the PGA tour for his golf courses stung him more than the money.

At casinos, the high rollers get the best perks and other comps due to how much they gamble. Virtuoso Travel is the same type of thing: a “by-invitation-only organization through which member travel advisers have privileged access to exclusive amenities, travel offers and rare experiences that you can’t get on your own.”

Earlier this month, they removed all of Trump’s hotels from their services. Any high-end clients that might want to stay there won’t be doing it through this company. Virtuoso won’t reveal the factors that comprised their decision, but in simple terms, Trump is no longer good enough to be associated with them. It’s another hit to his ego and social status.


Regarding Trump running for president again, I said last week he won't because he can keep raising money from people who believe or assume he will, and the money can basically go towards anything he wants even if it's not politics. Mary Trump is his niece and a psychologist who wrote "Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man", says entering the 2024 presidential race puts him in a position where he could lose, so he's not likely to do so. I can't find the article right now, but another person has said he can make a lot of money by "fleecing the rubes" (the political donors).

Trump not running again for president was based on previous info. After Joe Biden took office, the question came up about whether he would commit quickly to running for a second term. He had more important things to deal with, so it was going to be put off for later.

Biden’s first news conference included his statement that it’s his plan to run for reelection. That should put to rest any ideas from the Republican side that they could just wait him out for the next four years.

Earlier this month, Trump had said he would make a decision “by Tuesday” whether he would run again. I thought that meant the 23rd but it could be this coming Tuesday the 30th. With Biden announcing he’s planning on running again, that puts Trump in the position where he almost has to say he will. If he were to say he’s not, then his political fundraising starts drying up unless he pivots to “send me money and I’ll use it to help others get elected”. It would also send the message that he doesn’t think he’ll win against Biden.

Trump doesn’t make definitive statements very often because he likes escape clauses and not being held accountable for what he says. Prior to Biden’s confirmation of running again, Trump could have just kept dropping hints in order to keep donations flowing in. But even if he does say he’s running again, that doesn’t preclude a decision later to walk away and take the donations with him.

I actually don’t think that would be a bad idea. Re-run the 2020 election after 4 years of Biden/Harris so the public get to choose based on experience.

Hey presto, you break the two-party system after everyone votes for a traffic cone in Maryland.

#TrafficCone2024

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I don’t think either Biden or Trump will be running in 2024 - despite what either of them say now.
I think that after 4 years, Biden will be too tired to run again. It’s a job for someone with energy, and let’s face it, Biden is old. He can say now that he’ll run again, but in 4 years that may well change, and I think it will.
As for Trump, @RRabbit42 has covered that pretty well :laughing:

Biden’s pretty realistic about his age. In a separate interview after his news conference, he says he tries not to plan three to four years down the road and he knows fate can change plans. That’s a tacit acknowledgement of his age. A factor in choosing Kamala Harris as his running mate was partly in response to his age and her age.

But age alone doesn’t determine how long you’re around. It’s what you do doing that time. I don’t know what James Lipton did to stay active, but it really surprised me when I found out he had died at age 93, two years after he stopped hosting Inside the Actors Studio. I would have placed him in his 50s or 60s.

In that regard, Biden’s ahead of Trump. Trump wouldn’t get on an exercise bike. A 2017 article by the Washignton Post says he believes the human body has a finite amount of energy and exercising uses up too much of it. I guess eating to replenish energy doesn’t work. But he keeps trying because when he goes to restaurants, he has to have a bigger steak than anyone else that’s with him, and in 2019, his health report classified him as obese.

Biden owns a Peloton. Right after he was sworn in, there were concerns about the integrated screen, cameras and microphones were a security risk. By now, either the White House cybersecurity team got that figured out, or Biden’s got a different bike without those features. He has a five-days-a-week workout routine and he joked in a 2019 interview that he’d challenge Trump to a push-up contest if Trump stated attacking his age or mental health.


Everyone has at least three different kinds of health: physical, mental and financial. From what I see, those three are more closely tied together for Trump than most people. As he gets older, his physical and/or metal health are likely to start failing. When that happens, he has a fourth type of health to worry about: familial health, which is his relationship with his family. He will have to worry about whether he taught his children so well that one or more of them do to him what he did to his father when Fred Trump Sr. started having health problems.

Diseases often run in families. In October 1991 almost exactly at age 86, Fred trump was diagnosed with mild senile dementia, which became more pronounced over the years to where he forgot who his own family members were. In 1993, he started to suffer from Alzheimer’s disease and died six years later from pneumonia. According to what’s on Wikipedia, Donald had a lot of influence over what was in his father’s will and he was one of three family members that entered legal depositions that Fred was “sharp as a tack” until just before his death. Look up how Donald’s first official health examination after becoming President and it will give you an idea of how accurate “sharp as a tack” actually is. (Short answer: when it was analyzed, Pres. Trump’s health report sounded like it was written by someone who is Trump instead of a doctor. The doctor that issued it later said Trump did dictate it and he only told Trump what couldn’t be in there.)

Eric Trump is one of the biggest cheerleaders for his father. In fact, he’s so much of a cheerleader that he’s disgusted because Joe Biden has used Air Force One to fly home to Delaware five times so far and by what Biden and Harris are doing in comparison to his father that it leaves him “heartbroken”. I guess his heart was perfectly fine four years ago when his dad had used Air Force One to fly home so he could play golf 19 times during Trump’s first 100 days in office and 289 times in total over four years at a cost of $151.5 million to taxpayers.


Let's pose a hypothetical situation. Let's say that Trump somehow stays out of jail before the end of the decade. In 2021, he'll be 81 years old. If he starts exhibiting the same symptoms his father did, might not his children (many of which are employees of The Trump Organization) start thinking about whether he should still be in charge of their inheritance?

What if someone like Eric Trump were to see those health problems, the damage his father has done to the Trump brand and the decreases in the value of the company that have been the result, is it far-fetched to think he might convince the board of directors that his father was unfit to lead The Trump Organization? What kind of further effect from being ousted from his own company have on Donald’s physical, mental and financial health?

The Donald’s life have been one of making everything a competition with a “me versus them” philosophy and mantra. It started with his own father and has extended to everyone he’s worked with and been associated with, including his own family. If it came right down to it, given everything they’ve been taught and everything they’ve seen their father do, would they choose him over their own self interests? And if he were to be convicted and sent to jail before his health deteriorates, might not such a forced removal from his company be necessary to protect it?

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Here we go again. The new timeline for Trump to be president again by August. Mike Lindell’s going to “dump” new evidence every day over the next four to five weeks on his new website. Since that hasn’t launched yet, the countdown begins whenever it does.

This time around, he’s found new evidence that is strong enough to sway Supreme Court judges so “the election of 2020 is going bye-bye”. He and his crack team “checked on every IP address, the IDs of the computers, we have everything” and they got all these “cyber prints” from “multiple places”. He’s done such a good job of collecting this information that it’s “going to make WikiLeaks look like a Tinker toy.”

The more I see of him spouting things like this, the more the first time he met Trump and decided to go “all in” on supporting him sound like some sort of religious experience. He’s spending millions of dollars to support Trump and he doesn’t care about the money because he’s found The Truth and has to make it known.

Mark him down for someone who is going to ruin his life and his company to support someone who doesn’t care about him unless it benefits him at that moment.

Hey, how about all those kids in cages people used to care about. What used to be a humanitarian crisis at 1/7th the numbers is now a side note that’s totally under control. Also, packing untested people into emergency shelters for days and weeks at a time is totally fine, despite people fleeing a volcano having to get vaccinated.

And what a great idea to put the dude who was at Waco in charge of the ATF. I am sure he’s learned his lesson by getting promoted multiple times after killing innocent women and children in order to save them.

And it turns out the laptop was real, but it doesn’t matter because the Secret Service will be there to bail out Hunter. Especially when he illegally buys a handgun and his brother’s widow, I mean his girlfriend, takes it and throws it in a trash can. Both of which are crimes that would see normal citizens in jail.

In local news Indianapolis police are arresting youth for gun crimes but the prosecutors aren’t pressing charges. Then everyone acts surprised when the murder rate keeps going up. But they still call for more gun laws, maybe so they can ignore those too, while prosecuting shop owners for defending themselves.

The media may be ignoring it but at least in my circles people are very aware still and are critical of the administration for it.

As compared to the absolute feeding frenzy its another brick in the media bias wall.

And now they are lookimg at finishing sections of the wall that Trump had supported. And Texas is looking into i believe 7 or 14 people, sorry may have incidents and suspects mixed up, for multiple cases of swxual abuse of these kids.

“The media” isn’t ignoring it; I’m seeing tons on it. It’s hard to assess media bias fairly in an era where we are all choosing our own media.

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Hoo boy.

The old adage of “He who pays the fiddler get to choose the tune, but he who holds a knife to the fiddler’s throat will write the symphony…” springs to mind.

Apparently Pres Ramaphosa got handed an ultimatum that the ANC NEC must kick out Ace Magashule, or the ANC won’t receive any more funding from Rupert et kie.

We are watching things with interest, to see what will happen next.

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amaBhungane = They say that their name means “dung beetles” in isiZulu, the primary indigenous language of South Africa. They claim they are “digging dung, fertilizing democracy.”

They have unearthed a lovely story involving powerships. Which got censored by Twitter.

Article to Twitter blocking them : https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/397193-amabhungane-website-blocked-on-twitter-following-karpowership-story.html

Their story : Powerships: How the multi-billion-rand tender was (legally) rigged - amaBhungane

Somebody political got involved and got Twitter to take the story down as it may be damaging to their political career.

Spread news of this if you want to.

I was really hoping that with the election behind us and being blocked by the major social media platforms, he would gradually fade away from our consciousness and we could forget about him as a force in US politics until he dies in a few years. But that seems not to be the case. This is a lengthy but well-written explanation of the way he continues to warp the formerly conservative party.

Yeah, we’re stuck with the former guy until something major happens to him, be that death, physical health, mental health or criminal charges, because he has an obsessive and vindictive personality.

Trump is doubling-down by trying to flip around the idea of his conspiracy theories about election fraud being “the Big Lie” by saying that the election not being fraudulent is the lie. That’s the tactics of basing a lie on the truth and repeating a lie often enough to make it become the truth. He’s being willingly aided by the Republican party and by people like Mike Lindell, who now claims Trump actually got 80 million votes and reporters simply stopped talking about how many he got because it would help Biden get elected.

By so firmly latching onto one person, Republicans are setting themselves up with a single point of failure. It’s well documented how he can go from “this is the best person for the job” to “they are worthless and a loser” in a short period of time. Getting closer to filing criminal charges against him is picking up steam. Does anyone honestly think once that happens, Republicans won’t start thinking about how to save their own skin? They’re doing it right now because they view him as the way of saving their political career.

But once the tide turns against him, I don’t see those same Republicans sticking by him until the end. I think it will turn out the same as with Joseph McCarthy. McCarthy went from riding high on his own wave of conspiracy theories and fraudulent claims to being disgraced in less than a year. He kept at it afterward until dying two years later, officially from Hepatitis, possibly caused or exacerbated by alcoholism. We now have the negative term “McCarthyism” to describe his tactics. I think “Trumpism” will also become a negative term, just like the Trump name itself has become toxic.

Until it’s no longer in their interests to support him, the Republican party is adhering to his values, which currently appear to be the following:

  1. Are you loyal to Donald Trump?
  2. Will you support, enforce and repeat his claims?
  3. Are you willing to set aside pesky things like honesty and integrity?

The vote to remove Liz Cheney from the House Republican Conference taking just 16 minutes demonstrates that. The official reasons why she had to go varied but it came down to she wasn’t loyal to Trump and wouldn’t lie for him.

It may be time for the Republican party to choose a new name to better match their values. If they won’t commit to The Trump Party because of needing to save their own skin later on, then maybe they could be the Cronyism, Conspiracies and Charlatans Party, or CCCP for short.

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Severe misunderstanding of what happened here.

But anyway, the only people I regularly see talking about Trump are liberals. Well, them and the people saying things like “Sure wish we had cheap gas like under Trump” or “Sure wish we had peace in the Middle East like under Trump” or maybe “Gosh, the Russians weren’t threatening Ukraine when Trump was president” or the ever popular “The Chinese and Koreans didn’t do all that saber rattling under Trump” and “Wow, employment really goes to shit when Trump is gone”. Hey, how about all those kids in cages we don’t talk about any more? And the wall would have been further along if we didn’t stop building it for a few months.

I didn’t like Trump, not many people do. But it’s not loyalty to him that people are vetting for, it’s loyalty to the policies. I’m sure Israel misses the policies, and Ukraine, and Taiwan, and Japan, and India, and apparently France and GB. Meanwhile we get malaise and Carter Pt 2 instead. BTW, has our immigration Czar made it to the border yet?

The Main Stream Media got Trump elected in the first place and without him they lose millions of viewers.
Stop talking about him constantly and hopefully he will fade away.

Meanwhile people who voted for Biden are pissed because he isn’t even doing what he told them he would do. Running mid to far left and presidenting from a wishy washy mid left sort of centrist authoritarian something. But hey, back to muzzling reporters and early lids on the day with quote approval back in place.

It’s not about the policies.

There’s no interpretation of reality where this makes sense. Liz Cheney’s voting record supported Trump not quite 93% of the time. Elise Stefanik’s career support is 77%.

Your position only makes sense if you are ignoring what everyone involved says. It’s simply a cult of personality. The GOP did not even have a policy platform in 2020; it was simply more of whatever Trump said.

There’s no conservative party to speak of right now in the US. I have plenty of criticisms of the other party and my natural sympathies are with conservatism (with caveats), but I gave up on the GOP when they decided to nominate a patently unqualified scoundrel in 2016. Nothing that has happened since makes me think I’ll ever go back. We need a good opposition party and we don’t have one.

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And that just goes to show that it’s not just the democrats that ignore reality and say “The other guy is bad therefore everything is his fault”.
I’m on the other side of the world and even I know that most of that is either misleading or outright wrong.

But they aren’t. Other than me being simplistic none of what I said is wrong. Some may be a matter of opinion. Biden has made policy choices that lead to these results.

Unlike some I don’t blame the pipeline stuff on Biden. We’ve all known for at least four presidents that our infrastructure defense is weak. But the response from the White House was to yell at potential profiteers more than the actual attackers. So even that response is pretty weak.

So far all I am hearing is that we will print A few more trillion in debt to dig our way out of a problem that several states have already solved. But hey, Illinois has to cover its pension gap that Covid caused 20 years ago.