Politics is Stupid

If the president doesn’t matter, why do we have one? Is it not because their views guide and influence congress? Is it not because they influence who serves in congress?

I have a difficult time believing that someone who has openly stated misogynistic and xenophobic views and who appears to care about only three things; himself, money, and himself, to be able to represent ANYONE else’s interests in a constructive way.

I would rather have someone in a leadership role that is not constantly spewing hate. It encourages the people to spew hate, which, in a country as diverse as the USA, will only lead to a country divided.

I wrote a book. And then I deleted it. We srent going to agree on this and I’ll save everyone the time

I believe the current form of the presidency has too much power. Not that they arejt importsnt, but that everyone in Congress is passing the buck.

The boxes in my area and the one in that picture have a slot that’s just big enough to fit the envelope. You can, and someone did, get something thin in through that slot, but to take anything back out through it, you’d have to have something equally thin, about 3-4 feet long, flexible, with a grasping unit at the end and a camera with a light to see what’s available to grab. Or, you can go after the lock on the access door.

The outer envelope has four identifiers, so as long as one of them survives, election officials can get a replacement ballot to the person. The identifier on my ballot doesn’t have any obvious connection to the envelope identifiers.

Less than 48 hours to go before election day. More than a few ballots have already been submitted and the votes have been more in favor of Harris than Trump. The GOP has long been against early voting for this kind of reason, but every so often they realize that they need their voters to vote early before flipping back to early voting is bad.

There’s another kind of early voting that is a standard part of the voting process. It’s also one that can appear misleading. That early voting is when counties in each state finish counting the votes and report the totals.

A county with fewer voters will finish counting early. These are rural counties. A county with a large number of voters will need extra time to finish counting the votes. These are counties with large urban areas.

Republicans often live in rural and less densely-populated areas, so vote counting is completed faster and it tends to favor Republicans in elections. This is called the Red Mirage because they take an early lead.

Democrats often live in urban and more densely-populated areas where vote counting takes longer. When the votes favor Democrats in these areas and the lead Republicans had decreases or is erased, it’s called the Blue Shift.

Despite whatever claims of fraud or shenanigans may be made about votes seemingly growing up out of nowhere, it’s simple math. Nothing else.

If anyone says it’s not math, it’s nefarious actions, ask them to count to 20,000 and then count to 200,000, going by ones each time and not skipping any numbers. Which takes longer? (Answer: 5 hours, 33 minutes and 20 seconds to reach 20K, and over 2 days to reach 200K.)



RFK Jr. dropped out of the race not long ago and cast his lot in with Trump. RFK Jr tried to get his name removed from the ballot in several states so it wouldn’t dilute the votes going to Trump. RFK Jr didn’t drop out of the race early enough and didn’t submit his requests to election officials early enough, so he’s still on the ballot.

As a reward for giving his votes to Trump (or at least trying to), Trump promised RFK Jr he will be in charge of the public health agencies such as HHS, CDC, FDA, NIH, a few others, and the USDA.

Trump said this recently about it: “I’ve been friends of his for a long time, and, uh, I’m going to let him go wild on health. I’m going to let him go wild on the food. I’m going to let him go wild on medicines.”

Anyone who has looked into his views on medicine and public health knows they’re not the best and many are harmful. But look at Trump’s statement. He will let RFK Jr to go wild on all of it. Think back. What was the last thing you remember Trump saying would be “wild”. How did that turn out?



How’s your finances? Doing good? Got a big buffer built up to handle unexpected expenses?

Hope you do, because Donald Trump’s choice for an economy and efficiency expert, Elon Musk, said Americans will need to be ready to face hardship as he makes his cuts. But don’t worry. Once he gets rid of all the fat and waste, everything will be right as rain and stronger than ever.



Did you know that Donald Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson have a little secret? Yeah, they do. At a rally last week, Trump looked over at Johnson and told the crowd that the two of them have a little secret. They’re not going to tell anyone what it is until after the election. But they’ve got a little secret.

Cue the questions to Mike Johnson: What’s this secret you and Trump have? Johnson first says it’s a secret and by the name itself, you don’t say what it is. Then he backpedals after he keeps getting asked about it and says it’s getting more people to vote.

Let me get this straight. You want more people to vote and you’re doing something to get more people to vote, but you won’t tell anyone what that is. <voice = “Dr. Evil”>Right.< /voice>

The concern is the little secret is what’s already known and what Johnson has re-confirmed recently: he will definitely certify the results of the electoral college vote on January 6, 2025… if it’s a free and fair election. If his definition of a “free and fair election” is “Donald Trump wins”, you have your answer.

Another concern is there’s wording in the Twelfth Amendment that makes it possible for the House of Representatives to be the ones that decides who wins the election for President. It’s along the lines of if you don’t have a majority vote in situation A and in situation B, the House votes. It would get to that point if enough votes from the electoral college are thrown out so that neither Trump or Harris reach 270 votes.

The wrinkle is members of the House are sworn in on January 3rd. If Democrats retake the House, and there’s a good possibility they will, they could adhere to the actual results of the election and help prevent alternate slates of fake electors from skewing things towards Trump. As a reminder, when the idea was first proposed after the 2020 election, the electors were specifically identified as “fake electors”. Then someone in the group pointed out it wasn’t a good idea to call them “fake electors” if you’re going to try and pass them off as official and legitimate.



One more item before I bring back our favorite pillow salesman. Trump’s campaign was engineered around Biden being too old to be President. The concerns of Trump being almost as old were brushed aside. Then Biden dropped out and suddenly, Trump was officially the oldest person to run for President in the entire history of our country. (Trump is 78½ right now and Biden was just shy of 78 when he was elected.)

Relying on a cognitive test that is now way out of date, various people and media organizations making excuses for him, and his own excuses like “I’m not rambling, I’m weaving”, Trump has been able to keep pushing age concerns aside. Those age concerns are becoming more and more noticeable, to the point where the people and media organizations making excuses for him aren’t able to be as convincing any more.

A recent example is when Biden decided to weigh in on the comedian at the Trump rally in Madison Square Garden making a joke about Puerto Rico being a floating island of garbage. (Massive backlash on that, if you haven’t heard, with Trump doing his Sgt. Schultz routine again when asked about it.) The way Biden said the only garbage he saw implied he was speaking about Trump supporters.

Republicans leapt at this. Trump decides he’s going to own it and adds an orange reflective vest and a garbage truck to his campaign props. He slowly walks to the garbage truck, reaches for the handle, misses, reaches for it again and misses again, and he starts to fall over before stopping himself. Climbing up into the truck was also slow and took obvious effort.

The election going on right now isn’t just about whose policies and beliefs you feel are better for the country. It’s about electing someone who is now in the same position he so vehemently decried as little as five months ago. Someone who is showing more and more evidence of mental, psychological, emotional and physical decline.

It’s also no longer about electing a Vice President who’s there as a backup on the off chance that something happens to the President. It’s about electing a Vice President who is more and more likely to be called to take over for Trump if he becomes President when Trump can no longer be shielded and protected after his mental, psychological, emotional and physical health decline even further.

The debate between J.D. Vance and Tim Walz showed Vance is intelligent, articulate, coherent and competent, the things Trump no longer is, regardless of how you view what amount of those he had before. A lot of what’s been working against Trump has come from Trump himself. Vance as President would not have those kinds of hindrances.



Mike Lindell, founder of a pillow empire, can’t make up his mind as to whether his company is doing fine or is going down the toilet. One day he’ll say that any statements about his company dying are wrong, then on other days, he’ll tell you that himself.

Well, the answer definitely is the latter because he took out a $600K loan last month with a 340% interest rate. Not 3.40%. 340.00%. It will cost him $16K a day in interest.

The way the company offering the loan got around restrictions on what interest rates can be placed on the loan is they classified it as a purchase of unpaid MyPillow invoices.

The loan became public knowledge when Lindell immediately filed a lawsuit claiming the terms are so bad they’re unenforceable and they’re loan sharking. But they are terms he agreed to because as he said twice in the lawsuit, his is a cash-strapped company and he had to proceed. Must have been out of luck getting a loan from any other financial institution, I guess.

My take is he saw an opportunity to get free money and not pay it back. He knew the terms were unreasonable but agreed to them anyway because he was going to contest them in court. The key will be whether the terms were hidden from him when he had the pen in hand to sign the papers, or were changed after signing. If knowledge of the terms was withheld or were changed afterward, his lawsuit has merit. If not, it doesn’t.

If my take is correct, then Lindell has decided “Render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s” is just a nice little saying that doesn’t mean anything, not something that came from the source of the faith he says he belongs to.

I think this is the first time ever, but I actually agree with Lindell. I don’t care if he knew the terms beforehand, they are illegal for a reason.

Yes he is. He’s also a slimy lying opportunistic weasel. He was the one who was a never Trumper and called Trump America’s Hitler. I’m betting he hasn’t actually changed his mind about that, he just lies about it.
He’s also demonising immigrants. His wife’s parents are immigrants. His wife is the daughter of immigrants. What sort of person does that?

On a separate note, there are a couple of court decisions recently about Pennsylvanian elections
The first was a US supreme court ruling that Pennsylvanians are allowed to correct faulty ballots. This was seen as a win for Democrats
The second was from the Pennsylvania supreme court. In Pennsylvania there is a law stating that mail-in votes with faulty dates must be discarded. Democrats were challenging that law. The PA supreme court said it must stand.
Democrats were claiming that the law is about voter suppression. And they are correct. High turnout in elections tends to favour democrats, so a lot of republican effort goes into suppressing turnout.
But that’s irrelevant here.
The PA supreme court’s ruling was that this is way too close to the election to be changing the rules. And they are right. The time to change the law is not a week before election day, when a lot of mail-in ballots have already been made.

Couldn’t possibly be because the dates matter or anything. A lot of these laws are proposed well ahead of time, but legislatures table them until an election is near and then one side is clamoring for the change and the other side is more than happy to say it’s just too late to change it. Depends on who is in power, and who the change benefits as to which party is doing which.

And yet, they don’t pass it and enforce it for the next election.

Amazing to me that not accepting poorly filled out, mismatched signatures, no postal stamp, bad dates, and just about any other error is considered favoring one party over the other, like one side’s supporters aren’t competent enough to fill out a ballot and mail it in, or even just drop it in a box.

I hate that elections are basically decided by people who are only voting because Taylor Swift, or Joe Rogan, or whoever the hell told them to vote. With no idea what’s going on, voting for local offices via the alphabet, and randomly voting on public questions. Clint Eastwood, Oprah, whoever, told me in a text message to vote for X! And since registration happens almost automatically in many places they don’t even have to try to pay attention, they just show up at the polls assuming they are registered, and they often are.

I wish more people cared more than one day every 4 years. Next election is going to bring the rhetoric to even greater heights. This time two attempts on a candidate, I’m sure that will become the low bar in the future.

That misses the point somewhat.
If you have a voting method that is favoured by one party’s voters over the other, then making it easier to discard votes by that method does harm one party more than the other. Trump has been demonising mail-in ballots for the last 10 years, so republicans tend to stay away from them, democrats are quite happy to use them.
And really, does writing a date on the outside of an envelope actually provide any more security? Republicans think it does, democrats think it doesn’t.

Which is why I said that the court was correct in denying the application.

Why?
A democracy works best when as many people as possible take part in elections (well, usually, the American democracy system is a bit odd with the electoral colleges). Surely getting more people out to vote is a good thing?
Taylor Swift’s message was “Do your research into the best candidate and get out and vote”. That resulted in millions of extra enrolments. The day after that message was the single biggest jump in enrolments the country has ever seen.
How is that a bad thing?
Yeah, there may be some who will vote a particular way because of celebrity endorsements, but how is that any different to someone who votes republican/democrat because they have always voted that way, regardless of how the party has changed over the last few years?

This actually came up in a discussion on the radio station I listen to on my drive in, and they brought up an interesting point. Many people only seem to get upset about celebrity endorsements. What about newspapers/media outlets endorsing candidates? What about businesses? Shouldn’t they be just as upset about this sort of endorsement? But they rarely are.

Because we aren’t a straight Democracy. Representative Republic with a union of equal states. The states select the executive, and should still select the Senate. The founding fathers were very clear on their views of a majority rules democracy, 2 wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.

And no, trust me, I have worked the elections for almost a couple decades now and no. The number of low information voters is disgusting. The people who only show up for the Presidential and actually try to ask us as poll workers who they should vote for, or who Trump/Cardi B/Bugs Bunny/Swift or whoever else said they should vote for. Which ones are the Real Democrats/Republicans? Straight tickets are about 20% of the total vote most times, and that’s so low because in our area people just switch parties so they can run in local elections so their followers often cross as well.

Simply getting more low information voters to vote makes politics worse, makes voting more emotional than logical, and simply means whoever can promise the most ridiculous bullshit, or scares the other side the most, wins.

No one holding any sort of moderate opinion will ever win in this environment. It’s going to be Nazi’s vs. Commies forever, baby killers vs. xenophobes, Them VS Us in deeper and deeper shades of black and white.

If they are following a media outlet that endorses someone that implies they are at keast paying attention to a news source. Even if I think its all bad information its at least information.

While I agree, it would be far better if more people knew what they were doing when voting, that is, unfortunately, the price of a democracy.
I always think of the saying; “Take a look at a person of average intelligence and remember that half the population is even more stupid than them”, but even so, they still deserve a voice (though it’s sometimes hard to remember that when people like Marjorie Taylor Green get elected :frowning: )

Same here. Some bastard politcians found that divide and conquer works really well.

looks as if il donaldo trumpo won

I hate all politicians.

You do get those who really do care, but they’re extremely rare.

The majority’s in the game just to get rich quick. And to fuck things up for other people.

1 Like

To everyone that voted for Donald Trump and for enough people for Republicans to retake both the House and the Senate, remember yesterday. Not as the day he won, not as the day you got what you wanted, but as the day you thought you got what you wanted. Over the months and years to come, you, I and everyone else will learn what we all really got.

I hope I’m wrong. If I am, then things won’t be as bad as predicted, as he was signaling. It will be a chance for me to look at what I was thinking and see if there’s things I need to change.

But if I wasn’t wrong and it was a case of his followers were just too entrenched in their beliefs and the tale he sold, then it may be worse than predicted, as he was signaling.

His second term will be a chance for him to show that words like he will be a dictator but only “on day one”/“for one day” were just playing to the crowd and not a promise. That his “tariff everything” plan and the people he wants to help him run the country like Elon Musk for economics, RFK Jr. for health and food, and now Herschel Walker for building a missile defense system, will produce good results and not drive the country into an economic recession.

It will be a chance to show his favorite story that he tells over and over again was just a story and not broadcasting to us ahead of time what we would do. The story about a woman who took in a snake because it was cold, helped it recover, then was shocked when the snake bit her. As she’s dying, she asks why, after all she did for it? The snake mocks her and says, “You stupid woman. You knew I was a snake when you took me in.”

There’s many people that took Donald Trump into their hearts and minds over the past years. More did so by voting for him this year, even if it was as simple as “well, I’m not sure about her, so I’ll vote for him, I guess”.

I hope I’m wrong.

1 Like

I’m watching this as well.

It has started. Trump promised to go after his political rivals (basically anyone who doesn’t kowtow to him) if he got elected.

Trump sues CBS News for $10 billion over Harris interview

Yep, CBS cut some stuff for brevity (as oppsed to Fox who cut Trump stuff because he looked like the deranged lunatic he is) so Trump is going after them.
It should be thrown out and the lawyers should be sanctioned for wasting the court’s time. However, if this gets appealed to the supreme court, who is willing to bet that they won’t side with Trump?

9 day old video. He did this befire the election. Its theater. CBS covered for thw VP vecause she interviews for crap.

Dollars to donuts it doesnt go any farther than them starting ti file.

Crap, I missed that :frowning:

It still shouldn’t have even been filed, and the lawyers should be sanctioned for signing their names to such utter nonsense.

And yet you don’t say the same thing about Trump - who interviews even worse.
Trump is graded on a curve. He never answers questions, even the softball ones he gets when he’s on Fox.
And speaking of Fox, Harris’s interview there actually went pretty well for Harris, so I dispute your assertion.

Anyway, it’s all moot now. Trump will be president, and democrats aren’t planning to overthrow the government on Jan 6th.
I wish you good luck, because you sure as hell are going to need it.

I’m a little concerned. There are people up here on NextDoor telling us that if we didn’t/don’t support Trump, we need to get out. I’ve been keeping mostly quiet, but I sure hope I don’t end up with people vandalizing my home because I didn’t put a Trump sign up in my yard.

1 Like

This area is getting shockingly evil.

I removed anything we had out that was pro lgbt+ and removed any stickers from our cars. I fully expect nazi Germany levels of danger.
Maybe not today or in a few weeks but if he’s already ramping up, ill be prepping.
I pray we get an investigation and recount as there are many things with the election, such as Rump and Melon both bragging about how Rump doesn’t need votes, and how Melon had election sites set up using Starlink.

Im not saying the scam artist and rapist cheated. I just want things double-checked. If we double-check and things still land his way ill accept that people are foolish and evil in this shit-hole country.

@Nabiki stay safe. I think we may see prison camps in the states on the scale like what was done to the Japanese/Americans in WWII